Brian Ahern would want to verify that Rossi's IP is a fraud as a
statement of verified fact. IH et al wound want to verify their
assertion that Rossi's IP does not work. If IH is telling truth that IP is
nothing, then they lose nothing related to that IP and advance their case
against Rossi.

On Sat, Feb 18, 2017 at 4:35 PM, a.ashfield <a.ashfi...@verizon.net> wrote:

> Axil,
> I don't think it follows that IH is free to do what they want with Rossi's
> IP.  If that were the case why would they have agreed to give Rossi $89
> million?  Surely his technology, if it works, is worth more than $11
> million.
>
> I also thought Brian Ahern had expressed his opinion that Rossi never had
> anything and was just a fraud.  Correct me if I'm wrong.  If so, why would
> Brian want to work on it?
>
> As for facts - I have stated many times that they are not all known and we
> should wait for full information.  It does not seem to be a popular view.
> AA
>
>
>
> On 2/18/2017 4:20 PM, Axil Axil wrote:
>
> There are dozens of well  motivated open source replicators of Ross's tech
> working now including brian Ahern and an additional hundreds that will
> enter the field as soon as Rossi's tech is made available. I am disgusted
> with all the innuendo that is involved in the Rossi tech issue. It will be
> refreshing to deal with FACTS that can be verified or disproved by
> research. IH paid for that IP and it is theirs to do with it as they see
> fit. The licence agreement no longer is binding. LET US HAVE THE FACTS AND
> NOTHING BUT THE FACTS.
>
> On Sat, Feb 18, 2017 at 3:44 PM, a.ashfield <a.ashfi...@verizon.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Axil,
>> Apart from some of that information being proprietary it doesn't help to
>> have this run by avowed enemies.  Remember how MIT and CalTec bodged the
>> replication of Pons & Fleischmann?
>>
>> AA
>>
>>
>> On 2/18/2017 2:53 PM, Axil Axil wrote:
>>
>> IH would be well served to release all the Rossi provided INFO involving
>> the Rossi reaction to the open source community and Brian Ahern as its
>> most prominent member to allow that community to run tests to see if
>> Rossi's technology is a fraud. This verification would support IH in their
>> claims about Rossi.
>>
>> Sunshine is the best disinfectant.
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 18, 2017 at 7:44 AM, Brian Ahern <ahern_br...@msn.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I was watching a program about O.J. Simpson and how he had a loyal
>>> following. I see parallels to Rossi's loyal following.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Feed a cold and starve a fever;
>>>
>>> argue with no true believer."
>>>
>>> It is a waste of effort to expect the citizens of Planet Rossi to
>>> abandon their hero.  He is too charismatic and has hypnotized a  group by
>>> appealing to their hopes and dreams of clean energy.
>>>
>>> It is futile to expect logic and evidence will be able to de-program the
>>> earnest followers.
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From:* a.ashfield <a.ashfi...@verizon.net>
>>> *Sent:* Friday, February 17, 2017 8:11 PM
>>> *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:How to overestimate water flux by wrongly
>>> positioning an instrument
>>>
>>> That is certainly one way of avoiding answering the questions I asked.
>>> You say you have "all the data."  It seems very unlikely that IH has all
>>> Rossi's data and so how would you get it?
>>>
>>> AA
>>>
>>> On 2/17/2017 6:18 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
>>>
>>> a.ashfield <a.ashfi...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> I have every reason to doubt it.  Saying that you have the piping
>>>> drawing but refuse to publish it doesn't hold water.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Okay, so you are saying I am a liar. Got it. I will block any further
>>> messages from you.
>>>
>>> Done and done.
>>>
>>> - Jed
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

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