If I google "phonons as an energy source", nothing in particular comes up.  If 
we are identifying them as the likely source of excess energy within a 
barium/strontium ferrite structure,  I would think that someone somewhere has 
thought about cohering them into useful energy.  So, we create a particular 
motion that gives us a gain from 'straightening out' random 
motion..............?

From: Brian Ahern [mailto:ahern_br...@msn.com]
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2017 10:06 AM
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I am intrigued by the Dragone stuff. It seems very close to Manelas, which I 
thoroughly tested in2012.
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http://rexresearch.com/maccanti/maccanti.htm
Giampaolo Maccanti -- alleged free energy 
generator<http://rexresearch.com/maccanti/maccanti.htm>
rexresearch.com
Energia Celeste S.R.L. 17 Seprember 1998 Abstract--- Electromagnetic device 
(100), particularly to be used as a generator, for example of ...





As Dragone seems to be talking about an effect which appears during attraction, 
I wonder about the overunity claims of the Maccanti device.



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Dragone discussed the idea of decreasing entropy (increasing order of matter) 
as a an effect of the magnetic device he described.  That may include better 
nuclear order.



Another interesting item is the assessment of the Dragone document.



http://www.intalek.com/Index/Projects/Research/DragoneAnalysis.pdf
Analysis of Leon Dragone's paper by William 
Alek<http://www.intalek.com/Index/Projects/Research/DragoneAnalysis.pdf>
www.intalek.com<http://www.intalek.com>
Analysis of Leon Dragone's, "Energetics of Ferromagnetism" By William S. Alek 
INTALEK, INC. November 2002 Version 5a





Bob Cook

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    Leon Dragone also observed the cooling effect related to magnetism:

    
http://exvacuo.free.fr/div/Sciences/Dossiers/EM/Leon%20Dragone%20-%20Energetics%20of%20Ferromagnetism.pdf

    Mark Jordan


On 16-Feb-17 19:42, David Roberson wrote:

When a hot object radiates IR into space the temperature also drops.  Perhaps 
there is a low frequency form of magnetic coupling that can be encouraged to do 
a similar thing.  According to my observations there seems to be a method 
available to convert energy among the different forms under most conditions.

Dave







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If a specially shaped magnetic field can drop the temperature of an apparatus, 
shouldn't we conclude that random motion (heat) is somehow being converted into 
directed, useful motion?  That Maxwell's Demon has been found?




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