“I don't think machines will be able to duplicate what a bird brain can do, any 
time, ever.  Machines which we can invent are things that we can understand 
almost completely.  However consciousness, even animal consciousness, is 
something we will never understand sufficiently to create it, because it is a 
supernatural phenomenon.”

RIGHT-ON.  Like virtual quarks and spooky action at a distance, and other real 
phenomena.

Bob Cook


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From: John Shop
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 11:34 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:12 years from now

On 17/03/2017 2:08 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
. . .
I see no reason why this will not happen sooner or later. Machines are far from 
being able to do this now, because they have brains roughly the size of a 
bird's brain. Birds do not understand human language.
. . .
So I believed until quite recently.  It appears that some birds can not only 
understand what you say but understand what you are *thinking* without you 
giving any visible or audible clue!  They can also compose grammatically 
correct sentences in reply and all this with a brain the size of half a walnut!

Here is a video to tickle your interest:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UX4d2nb7yU
Here is the paper reporting all the precautions taken and statistical methods 
used to obtain the result:
http://www.sheldrake.org/research/animal-powers/testing-a-language-using-a-parrot-for-telepathy
Other papers by the same scientist are listed here:
http://www.sheldrake.org/research
You will notice that there are quite a few in very high impact journals 
including a review paper.  (It is very difficult to author a review paper 
because they are almost always by invitation only, and you will only be invited 
after you have become the recognized expert of a particular field).  So this is 
not some backyard ignoramus messing about, but a world-class scientist.

Mind blowing isn't it!  You can also checkout some popular videos with 
information on some other areas of his research:
Dogs knowing when their owner leaves for home:
https://youtu.be/DkrLJhBC3X4
(He gives plenty more dog evidence but this segment was created in response to 
lies by a skeptic)
People knowing who has rung before they answer the phone:
http://youtu.be/_tQe7NXIcnw

I don't think machines will be able to duplicate what a bird brain can do, any 
time, ever.  Machines which we can invent are things that we can understand 
almost completely.  However consciousness, even animal consciousness, is 
something we will never understand sufficiently to create it, because it is a 
supernatural phenomenon.

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