Magnetic fields are not conservative. This includes the gravitomagnetic, electro-magnetic, and nuclear spin orbit magnetic. You are on the right track.
Another type of non-conservative force is a time dependent force which is exhibited by visco-elastic materials. This another and perhaps easier way to conceptually introduce non-conservative forces into the nuclear domain. Harry -----Original Message----- From: H LV <hveeder...@gmail.com> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> Sent: Sun, Mar 19, 2017 12:09 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Sleeper from ICCF20 Hi Robin and Eric, If the evidence about transmutation at the Indian refinery is reliable then one way to explain it is to imagine nuclear forces as being fundamentally non-conservative and viewing their apparent conservative nature as an accurate approximation in the high energy domain. Another type of non-conservative force is a time dependent force which is exhibited by visco-elastic materials. This another and perhaps easier way to conceptually introduce non-conservative forces into the nuclear domain. Harry On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 5:03 PM, <mix...@bigpond.com> wrote: In reply to H LV's message of Sat, 18 Mar 2017 10:11:20 -0400: Hi Harry, AFAIK the forces involved are all conservative. That means that the change in energy is the same, irrespective of the path taken between endpoints. In short the energy difference is the same whether the "nut and bolt" are screwed together or hammered together. Obviously this is not the case for a real nut and bolt, i.e. the amount of friction involved changes depending on the path taken. [snip] >?What is the "bond" energy of a nut and bolt? Does the amount of energy >that is required to literally slam together a bolt and a nut correspond to >the energy required to screw them together? Equations are poor guides if >the situation is modeled in inaccurately. > >Harry Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html