Jed, First thanks for coming with a new guru's teaching, the former one (Joe Murray) has inspired you xxxx ideas as flow multiplier watermeters, half empty pipes inside a plant, a 40mm steam pipe and clairvoyant witnesses all informing you to know that the watermeter is qudrupling the flow values.
You do not have more luck with this Mr. Smith yes both the steam at outlet and the reservoir are at atmospheric pressure just underway many things and pressures happen. The steam goes to the user plant where it is condensed and, being given that the density of steam is some 0.6 kg/cu.m while water is almost 1000kg/m- a lot of "negative" pressure - the necessaryy pressure difference.appears. The water goes to the famous flowmeter and on that point it must be at least at 0.3 bars over atmospheric pressure, you know why!.The in the reservoir which feeds the pumps of the E-Cats. You are right that at pressure a bit higher than the atmospheric water boils at say 104 C. There reverse is true and we have early used pressure cookers that boils usually at 112C. JUST this has nothing to do with the case, 0 over the atmospheric pressure means OPEN for condensation. Re the steam pipe, Smith is more generous than Murray who shrinked it to 40mm, he says it is 4.5inches- the pipe is actually 6 inches. If you want to read a laudatio of your techno-guru 'perhaps what D.T. wrote tioday at Rossi's JONP would be OK for you. Peter On Fri, Apr 7, 2017 at 11:20 PM, Jed Rothwell <jedrothw...@gmail.com> wrote: > In Gluck's blog, he wrote: > > "A recent example is expert Rick Smith using them in order to demonstrate > that the 1MW plant of Andrea Rossi has circulated water not steam and the > steam - if formed could not be superheated- so he ignored one critical > detail - that the fluid had a temperature of 103-104 C at atmospheric > pressure . . ." > > It cannot be at atmospheric pressure. The reservoir is open to the air, so > it is definitely at atmospheric pressure. The pressure gauge is located > just downstream of the reactors, outside of the customer site. If both > locations are at atmospheric pressure, no steam (or water) can flow from > the reactor back to the reservoir. That is impossible. There *has to be* > a pressure difference, as Smith explained. > > Therefore, the pressure gauge reading of 1 atmosphere must be wrong. (I > assume it was supposed to be 0.0 barg, not bar -- which would be a vacuum. > Either way, it is impossible.) > > The pressure must be higher than 1 atm. When it is just a little higher, > the water will not boil at 103-104°C. > > This is elementary thermodynamics. > > See: > > EXPERT REPORT OF RICK A. SMITH, P.E., Document 235-1 > > SUPPLEMENTAL EXPERT REPORT OF RICK A. SMITH, P.E., Document 235-10 > > The Effects of Pressure on Boiling Point Temperatures > > http://coldfusioncommunity.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/ > 01/0235.01_Exhibit_1.pdf > > http://coldfusioncommunity.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/ > 01/0235.10_Exhibit_10.pdf > > https://durathermfluids.com/pdf/techpapers/pressure-boiling-point.pdf > > - Jed > > -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
