Harry-

You noted the following:

Monday, June 5, 2017 6:23 PM—

“However, as I recall there is a story floating around that a certain batch of 
Pd from the supplier seemed to work best.  If that is true then the energy 
storage might have happened prior to the experiment when the Pd was processed 
by the supplier.”


Pd manufacturing may well involve various grain sizes as well as their 
orientation with respect
Crystalline axis orientations.  Strong ambient magnetic fields during hot 
processing (hot rolling for example) with rapid quenching are what I have in 
mind.

Nickel may also respond like the Pd does during processing or subqequent 
processing.

I would guess that Pd nano particles may act in a similar manner to Ni nano 
particles in a LENR+ reactor.  Surprisingly, I have not heard of LENR 
experiments using Pd nano particles.  However, I m,at just be in the dark.

Bob Cook




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Ok, the numbers in this paper rule out the possibility of energy storage during 
the experiment.
.
However, as I recall there is a story floating around that a certain batch of 
Pd from the supplier seemed to work best.
If that is true then the energy storage might have happened prior to the 
experiment when the Pd was processed
by the supplier.


Harry

On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 8:43 PM, Jed Rothwell 
<jedrothw...@gmail.com<mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Please review the numbers in the paper, which is here:

http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/RouletteTresultsofi.pdf

For experiment 4, the excess heat lasted 70 days. The total experiment duration 
was 123 days. If there was a storage phase, it lasted 53 days. This would show 
up as an endothermic reaction, which would reduce power output by much more 
than the exothermic reaction that followed, because it would be shorter. Any 
calorimeter that can measure a positive exothermic reaction of X watts can 
measure an endothermic reaction of -X watts equally well.

Energy storage is ruled out.

- Jed



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