I found it. This is the thread also where Ed Storms and I went a few rounds.
[Vo]:BEC transforms photon frequency Inbox x Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com via <https://support.google.com/mail/answer/1311182?hl=en> eskimo.com 5/27/13 to vortex-l This paper verifies that a photon eradiated Bose-Einstein condensate will cut the frequency of incoming photons by dividing that frequency between N numbers of atoms. http://arxiv.org/pdf/1203.1261v1.pdf Rydberg excitation of a Bose-Einstein condensate “The results of theoretical simulations are represented by the continuous lines. According to the super-atom picture the collective Rabi frequency for the coherent excitation of N atoms is frequency (collective) = square root(number of atoms) X frequency(single); Where the single-particle Rabi frequency (single) is app 2 pi x 200 kHz for our experimental parameters.” Kevin O'Malley <kevmol...@gmail.com> 5/27/13 to vortex-l Then is that an explanation of why Gamma rays are not observed in LENR? If 2 of the atoms inside a multi-atom BEC fuse together, the incoming radiation (to the rest of the BEC) gets subdivided based upon how many atoms have formed the BEC. Right? Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com via <https://support.google.com/mail/answer/1311182?hl=en> eskimo.com 5/27/13 to vortex-l That is the idea. However, why would only a few hydrons fuse leaving just enough unreacted hydrons available to carry all the energy without it producing energetic radiation? I would expect occasionally, many hydrons would fuse leaving too few unreacted hydrons so that the dissipated energy would have to be very energetic and easily detected. Also, how is this mass-energy coupled to the unreacted hydrons? The BEC is not stable at high temperatures, which would be present inside the BEC when mass-energy was released. I would expect this release would destroy the BEC, leaving the fused hydrons to dissipate energy by the normal hot fusion method. The concept appears to have many logical flaws. Ed Storms Kevin O'Malley <kevmol...@gmail.com> 5/27/13 to vortex-l On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 10:03 AM, Edmund Storms <stor...@ix.netcom.com> wrote: > That is the idea. However, why would only a few hydrons fuse leaving just > enough unreacted hydrons available to carry all the energy without it > producing energetic radiation? I would expect occasionally, many hydrons > would fuse leaving too few unreacted hydrons so that the dissipated energy > would have to be very energetic and easily detected > ***That would account for the very occasional neutron being observed, right? And it also would account for how few of them get observed as well. They only happen when a multiple-fusion event takes place inside the BEC and there isn't enough BEC infrastructure to absorb the energy. > . Also, how is this mass-energy coupled to the unreacted hydrons? The BEC > is not stable at high temperatures, which would be present inside the BEC > when mass-energy was released. I would expect this release would destroy > the BEC, leaving the fused hydrons to dissipate energy by the normal hot > fusion method. > ***I would expect it as well. Like an explosion taking place inside a house, the structure blocks much of the energy while it is momentarily in place. And then another BEC forms, 2 atoms fuse, and the reaction goes on & on. > The concept appears to have many logical flaws. > > Ed Storms > > On May 27, 2013, at 10:08 AM, Kevin O'Malley wrote: > > Then is that an explanation of why Gamma rays are not observed in LENR? > If 2 of the atoms inside a multi-atom BEC fuse together, the incoming > radiation (to the rest of the BEC) gets subdivided based upon how many > atoms have formed the BEC. Right? > > > On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 12:49 AM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> This paper verifies that a photon eradiated Bose-Einstein condensate will >> cut the frequency of incoming photons by dividing that frequency between N >> numbers of atoms. >> >> >> http://arxiv.org/pdf/1203.1261v1.pdf >> >> >> Rydberg excitation of a Bose-Einstein condensate >> >> >> “The results of theoretical simulations are represented by the >> continuous lines. >> >> >> According to the super-atom picture the collective Rabi frequency for the >> coherent excitation of N atoms is >> >> >> frequency (collective) = square root(number of atoms) X frequency(single); >> >> >> Where the single-particle Rabi frequency (single) is app 2 pi x 200 kHz >> for our experimental parameters.” >> > > On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 3:18 AM, Kevin O'Malley <kevmol...@gmail.com> wrote: > This might be the reference but I'm not certain. > > > > Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> > 2/9/14 > to vortex-l > regarding > MIT Cold Fusion IAP 2014 Friday January 31, 2014 (Full Lecture) > > A lot of time was spent looking for a two level receiver that can split up > a gamma photon into many low energy photons. > > A electron photon pair was not considered for some reason. I see the NAE > as a EMF Cuisinart that slices, dices and blends all the photons that dare > to enter it. The NAE must have a resonance frequency in the soft x-ray > range. A > one to two nanometer NAE size will put its resonance photon frequency > into the soft x-ray range, > > So whatever photon that enters into the optical based NAE will be chopped > up and rebuilt into soft x-rays. > > When these x-rays are released from the NAE upon its destruction, it is > thermalized by absorption through additional photoluminescence > processes. > > This optical NAE process may be the reason that Mills sees XUV in his > reactions. > > On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 2:50 AM, Kevin O'Malley <kevmol...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> That super absorption sounds familiar. There was a study done with >> lattices that thermalized gamma rays and broke them down into X-rays >> according to the number "N" of the items in the lattice. I'll try to find >> it. >> >> On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 10:54 AM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> A Bose condinsate brings super radiance and super absorption into play. >>> These mechanisms produce concentration, storage, and amplification of low >>> level energy and goes as "N", the number of items in the condinsate. >>> >>> On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 9:46 AM, Frank Znidarsic <fznidar...@aol.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Why is a Bose Condensate needed? Its a matter of size and energy. The >>>> smaller the size of something we want to see the more energy it takes. >>>> Using low energy radar you will never be able to read something as small as >>>> this text. You need to go to UV energies to study atoms. Higher ionizing >>>> energies are needed to study the nuclear forces. Really high energy >>>> accelerator energies are required to look at subatomic particles. >>>> >>>> The common complaint physicists have with cold fusion is that the >>>> energy levels are to low to induce any type of nuclear reaction. They >>>> never, however, considered the energy levels of a large hundreds of atoms >>>> wide condensed nano-particle. Its energy levels are quite low. Warm >>>> thermal vibrations appear to the nano particle as a high energy >>>> excitation. This again is a matter of its size. It's not cracks, or >>>> shrunken atoms at work. It is the thermal excitation of a nano particle >>>> that yields the required energy. >>>> >>>> Again the simulation induces a velocity of one million meters per >>>> second. >>>> >>>> Frank Z >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >
