I do not consider it is proper to classifyl Bremsstrahlung radiation  as  gamma 
radiation.  Gammas are associated with nuclear transitions as a result of a 
change of potential energy of ta  nucleus to kinetic energy of a photon IMHO.

You may be right about EM radiation  being given off during hole elimination.  
Bremsstrahlung is associated with the slowing of  a charged particle which 
enters a substance at a velocity greater than the speed of light in the medium. 
 I doubt that the electrons that might move to fill a hole reach a velocity 
greater than C.  A calculation is warranted or an experimental reference may 
help clarify.

Bob Cook

From: Axil Axil<mailto:janap...@gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2017 6:14 PM
To: vortex-l<mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com>
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Rossi versus Darden trial settled

When the meissner effect associated with Hole superconductivity goes away 
during the shutdown of the LENR reaction, all the electrons that were pushed 
out of the positive superconductive core fall back into that core. This 
movement of electrons produce bremsstrahlung radiation when the LENR reaction 
deactivates.

On Sun, Jul 16, 2017 at 9:50 PM, 
bobcook39...@hotmail.com<mailto:bobcook39...@hotmail.com> 
<bobcook39...@hotmail.com<mailto:bobcook39...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Axil—

With the loss of a magnetic    field the resonant conditions providing coupling 
of a nucleus  to the lattice electrons are eliminated; however, with the 
transient magnetic field short lived resonances are established that allow 
nuclear isomers or other unstable isotopes that decay or react with production 
of gammas or the 0.51 Mev EM radiation associated with the reaction of a 
electron and a positron.

Bob Cook

From: Axil Axil<mailto:janap...@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 5:45 PM
To: vortex-l<mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com>
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Rossi versus Darden trial settled

Gamma's were also seen at reaction shutdown. What produces those gammas?

On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 9:35 PM, Kevin O'Malley 
<kevmol...@gmail.com<mailto:kevmol...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I believe gammas are generated and then absorbed into the BEC, sliced
and diced into X rays.   That is, the vast majority of the gammas.
Some poke their heads through, especially in the initial phase where
it's an endothermic reaction starting the whole thing.   That's why
Celani saw Gammas at Rossi's demo, but only at the outset.

On 7/11/17, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com<mailto:janap...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Gamma rays are not generated in LENR reactions because the reaction energy
> is completely drained by the entanglement of the SPP BEC that is in place
> on the nanoparticles that produce the LENR reaction.
>
> On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 6:30 PM, Kevin O'Malley 
> <kevmol...@gmail.com<mailto:kevmol...@gmail.com>>
> wrote:
>
>> I have thought for a long time that there have been multiple LENR
>> reactions.   When you let loose a gamma inside a lattice and it hits
>> those other nickel (or palladium) atoms, it generates fission
>> reactions.   The ash analysis results have been all over the board.
>>
>> On 7/11/17, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com<mailto:janap...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> > I now believe that there is multiple LENR reaction types. For example,
>> > Rossi has developed a low temperature LENR reaction and has tested it
>> > in
>> > the yearlong IH test. The mechanism for this type of LENR reaction is
>> based
>> > on magnetic flux line focusing by the hexagonal based lattice of mica.
>> This
>> > reaction mechanism follows along the lines that was shown to be
>> > effective
>> > in the Golden Balls of D. Cravins where the magnetic flux lines of a
>> SmCo5
>> > magnet is focused by the hexagonal based lattice of graphite.
>> >
>> > See
>> >
>> > https://www.nature.com/articles/srep16184
>> >
>> > This article explains how magnetism can be focused into skyrmion
>> > magnetic
>> > textures involving topological, non-topological and instanton droplets
>> > driven by spin-transfer torque in materials with perpendicular magnetic
>> > anisotropy and Dzyaloshinskii–Moriya Interaction
>> >
>> > During the year long test, Rossi has stumbled on the plasma phase LENR
>> > reaction and has built the QuarkX reactor to take advantage of this
>> > reaction type. Rossi has come to believe correctly that the plasma type
>> > LENR reaction is superior to the low temperature LENR reaction type and
>> has
>> > in effect tossed the low temperature technology in the trash as
>> > noncompetitive.
>> >
>> > The QuarkX technology is very difficult because it demands very high
>> > temperature structural materials. This requires specialized expertise
>> > in
>> > material science and extensive testing to ensure the robustness of this
>> > material under extreme stress over time.
>> >
>> > The plasma based LENR reaction is centered on the production of
>> > nanoparticles produced by the condinsation of metal vapor. Polaritons
>> > naturally form on those nanoparticles that convert the spin of infrared
>> > photons into powerful magnetic fields.
>> >
>> > By the way, I believe that the SunCell is using the plasma phase LENR
>> > reaction. Like Rossi, R. Mills has stumbled on this reaction type and
>> > is
>> > attempting to bring it to market.
>> >
>> > I am saying that if all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a
>> nail.
>> > If Mills encounters unexplained plasma based high energy reaction, it
>> > is
>> > human nature to reform and modify your existing thinking to incorporate
>> > that reaction into those existing theories. Mills would naturally
>> > resist
>> > rejecting all his ideas formed over a lifetime and that are central to
>> the
>> > survival of his company whether they are valid or not to impartially
>> > include a these new experimental results.
>> >
>> > On top of that, it is in the commercial interest of Mill’s company to
>> avoid
>> > any nuclear based theory that would restrict his ability to patent his
>> > experimental results or taint his work with the onus associated with
>> LENR.
>> >
>> > To top things off, sooner or later, someone will test the plasma type
>> LENR
>> > reaction for muon generation, and when the government finds out that
>> muons
>> > are being produced in massive amounts, then the government will take
>> > over
>> > the LENR tech and produce a muon activated thorium based large scale
>> > centralized grid connected gigawatt level fission power station.
>> >
>> > On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 11:55 AM, H LV 
>> > <hveeder...@gmail.com<mailto:hveeder...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> If that is true then Rossi either lacks the ability to interpret his
>> >> own
>> >> data or he intentionally misrepresented his data.
>> >>
>> >> Harry
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 3:55 PM, Kevin O'Malley 
>> >> <kevmol...@gmail.com<mailto:kevmol...@gmail.com>>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> You're probably right.   But there is evidence he had a COP > 1 for
>> >>> some length of time according to the report by the person chosen by
>> >>> both sides to administer the test.
>> >>>
>> >>> On 7/10/17, H LV <hveeder...@gmail.com<mailto:hveeder...@gmail.com>> 
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>> > Rossi was suing IH for millions of dollars, so he had to prove the
>> >>> device
>> >>> > in Florida worked as he claimed. If the trial proceeded I think it
>> >>> > is
>> >>> very
>> >>> > likely that the preponderance of the evidence would not support his
>> >>> claim.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Harry
>> >>> >
>> >>> > On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 10:07 AM, Jed Rothwell <
>> jedrothw...@gmail.com<mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com>>
>> >>> > wrote:
>> >>> >
>> >>> >> Kevin O'Malley <kevmol...@gmail.com<mailto:kevmol...@gmail.com>> 
>> >>> >> wrote:
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>> On 7/9/17, Jed Rothwell 
>> >>> >>> <jedrothw...@gmail.com<mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >>> >>> OJ Simpson...
>> >>> >>> > Obviously he was guilty.
>> >>> >>> ***Then obviously Rossi is Not Guilty of Fraud.   You just agreed
>> >>> >>> with
>> >>> >>> the legal standard.
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> I cannot judge legal standards. By scientific standards and by
>> common
>> >>> >> sense standards he is guilty of fraud.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>> > All I did was read the Penon report. That's all it takes.
>> >>> >>> ***Bullshit.  Plenty of others have read the report and came to
>> >>> >>> different conclusions than you did.
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Not as far as I know. Some people such as Axil refuse to read the
>> >>> report.
>> >>> >> Others people claim they read it and reached different
>> >>> >> conclusions,
>> >>> >> but
>> >>> >> they have not given any reasons. A few are so gullible they
>> >>> >> believe
>> >>> >> the
>> >>> >> post hoc lies about invisible heat exchangers that do not show in
>> >>> >> photographs. Such "conclusions" are so irrational they have no
>> >>> >> place
>> >>> in a
>> >>> >> serious discussion.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>>  At least his next intended victims
>> >>> >>> > have the court docket to warn them off.
>> >>> >>> ***Well if you were to write a point by point delineation of all
>> the
>> >>> >>> scientific claims that are fraud then his next "intended victims"
>> >>> >>> would have that.
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> I have no idea what his next scheme will be. Perhaps it will be
>> >>> >> the
>> >>> >> QuarkX? Rossi told Lewan in the interview that he is setting up in
>> >>> Sweden
>> >>> >> where people want to invest. I suppose that means he has begun a
>> >>> >> new
>> >>> >> scam,
>> >>> >> but maybe he made that up and there are no investors.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> - Jed
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>>
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