Axi and Jones--

Thanks.  That's sure seems to be an indication that magnetic fields are 
important in the control of the Cravens/Gimpel National Instruments Expo 
experiment. They believed that they were producing He.  Like Jones said it 
would be nice to know if they measured He and, if so how and how much.  Also 
did they measure HE or HE?

Jones indicated that the energy spectrum is flat at the temperature that the 
test was run.  That may be true, but the driving or resonate  frequencies may 
be at the upper end of the frequency spectrum associated with the initiation of 
the reaction and the NAE couple to the charcoal matrix.   A broad band of 
frequency may may make the necessary coupling more unlikely. 

Bob
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Axil Axil 
  To: vortex-l 
  Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 8:41 PM
  Subject: Re: [Vo]:RE: Co-Netic AA and the Dirac sea


  The referenced article at the top of this thread as follows:


  http://www.infinite-energy.com/images/pdfs/NIWeekCravens.pdf







  On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 8:56 PM, Bob Cook <frobertc...@hotmail.com> wrote:

    Axil--

    Which IE article regarding magnetism are you referring to?

    Bob
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Axil Axil 
      To: vortex-l 
      Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 5:00 PM
      Subject: Re: [Vo]:RE: Co-Netic AA and the Dirac sea


      The item below is an idem of interest in the IE article regarding 
magnetism.


      "an empirical model by Dennis Letts was used...“A Method to Calculate 
Excess Power”... predicts that the heat production is linearly proportional to 
the mass of the hydrogen-containing material and the magnetic field surrounding 
the mass."



      On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 5:52 PM, Jones Beene <jone...@pacbell.net> wrote:

                        From: Jed Rothwell


                        That is fun to read! Good experiment. Good write up.


        Yes it is a fabulous, simple experiment that is ripe for both 
replication
        and improvement.

        And it is somewhat poignant for those who have followed the field for a
        while, to mention Les Case – whose shadow looms over this experiment. 
Here
        is an old article from Gene:
        http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/MalloveEreproducib.pdf
        … showing the spherical reactor, which turns up once again. Notably 
Cravens
        (IIRC) purchased the Lab gear from Case’s estate. And he is still using
        carbon of some form, as did Case. Quote:

        The bulk of the material inside the active sphere is activated charcoal
        (carbon). The charcoal has a mesh of between 1350 and 2000 (micro mesh
        screening of 6 to 10 microns)…. That was selected to match the 8.2 
micron
        peak wavelength of black body radiation at 80°C [i.e. spectral radiance 
of
        about 0.02 W/(cm2)]. The charcoal’s pores holding the metal alloy are
        nominally 9 nm.

        That is very low spectral radiance, and to say that there is any peak 
at all
        at this temperature is strange, as the “curve” is essentially flat. 
Plus the
        value seems to be off. Nevertheless, the proof is in the pudding… and 
the
        active sphere worked for months at substantial gain. That is the 
incredible
        part.

        The big question I have for Dennis, or his first replicator, is what 
gases
        turn up in the ash after a long run?

        As the active ball was cut open at the end of the Demo to show no 
battery
        was inside, the accumulated gases were not analyzed at NI Week. Les Case
        thought he was seeing helium but was he?

        Mizuno has presented a paradigm shift with his discovery of hydrogen 
showing
        up in place of deuterium. Is that a trend, of a sort, now that we have 
an
        appreciation that it is possible? Was past evidence of
        D->2H deliberately ignored, since that reaction seems so improbable 
that the
        experimenter ignored it for sake of his own credibility?

        If the Mizuno finding were to be validated in another type of experiment
        then it may finally be possible to approach an operating theory which 
will
        appeal to the more hard-headed of skeptics. The skeptics I know will 
never
        buy into the helium spiel without some show of strong gamma photons – 
due to
        helium’s ubiquity… and given the recent Mizuno results – where a former
        proponent of helium is now (effectively) recanting - we may be seeing a
        major change in outlook.

        Who will be the next to confirm this? Or will it die a slow death?










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