In most LENR system, the energy is localized and the system will eventually fail as the NAEs are destroyed.
Energy sharing in a BEC has been seen in Rydberg atoms that have formed a BEC. Also the polariton laser will produce a single frequency of light when the polaritons release their photons. This means that the pumped energy has been converted to a single energy level throughout the polariton population. On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 9:26 PM, Foks0904 . <foks0...@gmail.com> wrote: > But the evidence we're talking about, I think, is in complete > contradiction to what you're saying is observed in LENR systems. Thermal > events are clearly localized, not evenly distributed/shared throughout. > Whether some kind of hidden, virtual quasi-particle interaction is taking > place is not evidenced by this in any way. Unless there is some way to > experimentally validate the BEC shield hypothesis, it would have to be > justified with math, which would still make it speculative however. Take > Szpak and Mosier-Boss for example who discuss "hot spots": > http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/SzpakSpolarizedd.pdf > > > On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 9:19 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> The production of hot spots that are not distributed demonstrates the >> absence of a BEC. A BEC is demonstrated by a even temperature (isothermal) >> distribution across the reaction chamber. All the members of the BEC have >> the same temperature, they have the same energy, they are the some particle. >> >> >> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 7:21 PM, Foks0904 . <foks0...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> You lost me there. It must be because, like Jones said, I don't >>> understand QM. >>> >>> As far as I was aware, if we are talking about the same experiment, is >>> that the IR hot-spots clearly demonstrate an NAE reacting. Nothing more >>> nothing less. They were not detecting nuclear products, just spotted heat >>> events. I don't understand how this demonstrates a BEC-shield in any way. >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 7:16 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> If superfuidic temperature distribution is demonstrated in a NjH >>>> reactor, this proves that a global BEC has formed. The production of >>>> flashing hot spots as viewed by a infrared camera shows that a BEC has not >>>> formed. I has seen this video. If no hot spots are seen in the lattice of >>>> the reactor, then a BEC has formed. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 7:05 PM, Foks0904 . <foks0...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> OK, so these papers are basically saying hot fusion/fission is >>>>> occurring in these nano-plasmon environments, right? Now the trick of >>>>> course is proving that a coherent BEC state, that links together a >>>>> phase-coherent quantum-system (aka "soliton") then dissipates all that >>>>> mass >>>>> energy through systemic distribution, can actually exist. Widom-Larsen >>>>> have >>>>> taken a similar road without success. Hagelstein has tried to do this >>>>> through a phonon quasi-particle model with limited success. Again, the >>>>> papers are all well and good, what experiments do you suggest to show this >>>>> is going on in all NiH LENR systems beside the particle chamber >>>>> suggestion? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 6:57 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I have put forth the nanoplasmonic experiments done with lasers. >>>>>> >>>>>> Repeated many times in previous posts and except in part as follows: >>>>>> >>>>>> have referenced papers here to show how the confinement of electrons >>>>>> on the surface of gold nanoparticles: a nanoplasmonic mechanism can >>>>>> change >>>>>> the half-life of U232 from 69 years to 6 microseconds. It also >>>>>> causes thorium to fission. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> See references: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&sqi=2&ved=0CC4QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Farxiv.org%2Fpdf%2F1112.6276&ei=nI6UUeG1Fq-N0QGypIAg&usg=AFQjCNFB59F1wkDv-NzeYg5TpnyZV1kpKQ&sig2=fhdWJ_enNKlLA4HboFBTUA&bvm=bv.46471029,d.dmQ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Experiments showing the same mechanism as listed below: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "Laser-induced synthesis and decay of Tritium under exposure of solid >>>>>> targets in heavy water" >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> http://arxiv.org/abs/1306.0830 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Initiation of nuclear reactions under laser irradiation of Au >>>>>> nanoparticles in the presence of Thorium aqua ions >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/0906/0906.4268.pdf >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >