Steven, I appreciate your point of view. I will respond this last time on this subject matter here and then I will move the discussion to VortexB and if you are willing to continue this discussion, meet me over there. I think it's fun to try to understand another's point of view.
Regarding dirty dancing - which is really most forms of dancing we have nowadays. Would it surprise you that I support dirty dancing. Yes, I think dirty dancing is OK in the eyes of God if it is done under the following conditions: 1. It is done with the proper individual/partner (husband or wife; Male husband with female wife), not with your same sex, multi-sex, or androgenous partner. and not with someone who is not your wife or husband. There is no sexual sin if sex is done with your husband or wife. Dirty dancing is not dirty if done with your husband or wife. 2. It is done in the privacy of your own home. No one else can see you. Displaying your dancing in public is tantamount to commiting that same dirty dancing with the person looking at you. 3. It is done to the tune of proper Godly music. Not rock and roll, punk rock, heavy metal or whatever. Music is part of the dancing and in fact, it is the biggest component of dancing. Proper music is not sin. So, in fact, since we are not married in Heaven, there will be no need for dancing, let alone dirty dancing. There will be Godly dancing associated with Godly music of praise and worship. Not dancing and music to satisfy carnal lust. No, comments about sexuality do not offend me. Why should it? Sexuality is a God-given desire and need; and God gave us abundant resource to express it with our own husbands and wives. Jojo ----- Original Message ----- From: Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 5:45 AM Subject: RE: [Vo]: The Absurdity of Darwinian Evolution. Greetings Jojo, my ancient respected nemesis from the past. I do not believe my previous comments implied that I am rejecting God and Heaven. The conflict, if there really exists one between us, seems to be that we may have slightly different intellectual perspectives as to what God and the Kingdom of Heaven might consist of. IMHO, both reside within us. http://biblehub.com/luke/17-21.htm In terms that I hope may establish a way for you and I to find some common ground in which to stand on I would submit that God and the Kingdom of Heaven is an eternal dance of Unity. To my way of thinking and feeling, that eternal dance includes sexuality. I include the expression of sexuality because, in my view, it is one of the most obvious, primal forces of Cosmic Creation that conscious sentient beings can experience. The ultimate expression of sexuality is Unity. When it comes to expressing Unity, I suspect God is not a prude, nor do I suspect has the Kingdom of Heaven banned "Dirty Dancing". It seems to me that only humans have learned how to behave prudishly when it comes to the infinite creativity sexuality bestows upon sentient creatures like us. Fortunately, I suspect God is very patient about such foibles. I don't know if my comments about sexuality have possibly offended you or not. Be that as it may, in the end I think we must remain True to Our Own School. That means we must live our Own School as best we can. We must be responsible for expressing our own POVs as clearly as we can so that others can evaluate them at their own pace and level of comprehension. That is the only way I know how common ground can be found amongst each other. Likewise, it is not our responsibility nor sacred duty to attempt to manipulate, coerce, or force our POVs, or Our Own School onto others. Again, it would appear that only sentient creatures, like us, seemed to have learned how to do that. Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson svjart.orionworks.com zazzle.com/orionworks From: Jojo My friend, if this is the only reason why you reject God and heaven, you are missing out on a lot of things. We vorticians enjoy intellectual stimulation. We debate arcane subject matters like "number of angels on the head of a pin." because we enjoy thinking, analysing, deep analysis and other mental and intellectual exercises. And I think you do to. The Bible talks of the "unsearchable riches of Christ". So, imagine an existence where you can indulge in this exercise of seaching the unsearchable riches of Christ for eternity. You will never finish searching everything there is to know. To me, that would be an enjoyable existence. One will not have time to dance, nor would one want to. So, dancing would be the last thing you would want to. Although there is a form of dancing associated with praise and singing to worship God. I am not referring to that; I am referring to carnal sexual dancing we indulge in.
