Re: [WSG] Styling forms

[Thomas Thomassen]

While I see your point, what I find to be troublesome is that Label and 
Input are inline elements. While it's easy to wrap the Inputs in Labels and 
make the Labels block elements, with just plain HTML and no CSS that means a 
form's elements will end up all in one long line.

Now, one can assume that most users will be using a user agent applying CSS, 
so it might not be much of an issue. But I don't see <p><td> as similar to 
<label + input><li>.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike at Green-Beast.com" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 6:07 PM
Subject: Re: [WSG] Styling forms


Still need some extra elements to organise them.
Such as lists.

I don't know why that would be. Proper use of form elements is the only 
organizational support needed. In my opinion, use of any other non-form 
elements on form's isn't necessary, or advantageous and, if not careful, 
can actually take away from the form.

Just like a <p> doesn't need a <td>, a <label + input> combo doesn't need 
an <li>.

Old conversation, I know, but I just had to chime in.

Cheers.
Mike Cherim
http://green-beast.com/








----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Thomas Thomassen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Fieldsets and Labels is present in HTML4 as well. Don't see anything new 
about that. Still need some extra elements to organise them. Such as 
lists.
 ----- Original Message ----- 
 From: Joe Ortenzi
 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
 Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 8:36 AM
 Subject: Re: [WSG] Styling forms


 Has anyone looked up the HTML 5 pages on form elements?


 http://www.w3.org/TR/html5-diff/


 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/html5/#forms


 It's all fieldsets and labels... which makes more semantic sense than 
paragraphs, lists, and dd/dl


 JOe


 On Feb 6 2008, at 04:06, Steve Green wrote:


   There may be specific cases where it would be right to mark up a form 
as a
   list, although I can't think of one. As a general rule it would be 
wrong.


   The argument against marking up a form as a list is that a form is not 
a
   list. A form is one or more groups of form controls, and the fieldset
   element is the correct means by which form controls should be grouped.
   Within a fieldset, paragraph elements should be used for individual 
form
   controls.


   Steve






   -----Original Message-----
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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   Behalf Of Michael Horowitz
   Sent: 06 February 2008 03:38
   To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
   Subject: [WSG] Styling forms


   I've been looking at styling forms and I'm seeing some people mark them 
up
   as ordered lists and other using paragraphs.  What are the arguments 
for the
   different markup types.


   --
   Michael Horowitz
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