Ben Smith wrote: --------- > > well, you might be able to use a usb to serial converter on one > > of the serial ports, > > though you might need an apple serial to rs232 cable (it's just > > wiring) as well and i'd ------- > > Not possible, the converter's are USB-->Serial NOT Serial-->USB .....
well, if both sides could send and receive and were properly (i.e. fully and not lazily) implemented then it should work, but obviously there might be issues with converters designed with a narrow mind set. > > unfortunately, the way the computer industry and mass marketing > > work no one is interested > > in designing a nubus usb card, which wouldn't be that hard > <SNIP> > > As the USB chipset is designed to interface to the PCI bus it would be a BIG > (probably many Thousand $) project, as you would have to either design a new ---------- that would be a truly, truly silly way to do it, pci is complicated, much, much more complicated than usb. there are a number of microcontrollers that can handle usb, it's a fairly simple and easy protocol, it should be relatively trivial to put one of those on a newbus card with a little driver for the mac to interface to the card, and even nubus is faster than most usb (other than the newest spec that's ridiculously fast for most users). trying to make any pci chipset work on usb would be a hard and really, really silly project, particularly for something as trivial as rev 1 or 2 usb, or really just about anything else. it's making more work by being lazy in a silly way, sort of like running softwindows on a mac instead of buying a cheap old pc for less and having 2 computers, without one causing problems for the other. then again, most of the programs i run on pc refuse to work on softwindows, and they aren't even games. i doubt the ide card for the apple IIe uses a pci chipset, and ide is much more complicated than usb, and the apple II is far more primitive than a mac and there's far less support for it in general, though the nuts and bolts are documented more thoroughly for the old apple's than they are for macs which i've always thought unfortunate, particularly since it's mostly corporate paranoia over secrets that wouldn't be that hard to reinvent or (gag) reverse engineer (usually any one competent to reverse engineer could solve the problem from scratch just as easily, in most cases at least), people go to obscene lengths to protect what they think is clever because it was hard for them, or an employee said it was a miracle when other good engineers could solve it more easily and often better than the "clever" solution. -- 1st-PowerMacs is sponsored by <http://lowendmac.com/> and... Small Dog Electronics http://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Sonnet & PowerLogix Upgrades - start at $169 | & CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac <http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html> 1st PowerMacs list info: <http://lowendmac.com/lists/1st-powermacs.shtml> --> AOL users, remove "mailto:"; Send list messages to: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To unsubscribe, email: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For digest mode, email: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subscription questions: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List archive: <http://mail.maclaunch.com/lists/1st-powermacs/> --------------------------------------------------------------- >The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---------------------------------------------------------------
