My Reply follows quote. On 12/12/2003 22:03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:  

> I'm looking for information on a PowerMac 5200/75 LC. I've read around on
>various sites about this machine, and it seems that the sites conflict with
>each other. LEM claims it's a crippled machine (like most machines with the
>"LC" label), designating it a Road Apple, while other sites claim it has the
>full 64-bit bus. I even seen a place that has a G3 upgrade for it, with the
>screen shot even showing it with a PCI riser card. Surely that's not
>correct!?
>
>What's the real deal on this?
>
>Also, what would be the best performing OS to install on one of these? Say,
>choosing between 8.1 and 8.6?
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Well, first of all, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Fortunately, or 
a lot of might never find mates! I think this also hold true of 
computers, and a lot of the old Macs in particular.

The 5200 does have its limitations. The video system is particularly slow 
and makes web pages load like watching grass grow. Still, it has a nice 
small footprint and as long as the video display power supply holds out, 
I find it useful. I have two of them running all the time. One, in my 
bedroom, has the TV tuner card installed and is set to come on just as I 
am heading to bed so that I can finish watching the late news as I 
perform my evening ablutions. Handy. It also has an ethernet card in its 
comm slot so it could do emergency surfing if my other 7 machines all 
crap out at the same time. Maybe not likely, but...

The other 5200 sits on the corner of my computer desk and has been 
"upgraded" by sticking a 6300 logic board into it. It serves as an 
answering/fax machine using its Glogal Village Teleport Platinum 33.3k 
modem, MegaPhone and Global Fax software. Starts up by itself, shuts down 
by itself. Requires almost no attention and screens out those annoying 
telemarketers. That itself is worth the wattage it consumes.

If you have seen a 5200 with a PCI slot, someone has pulled the original 
logic board and stuck in one from a 6360 (or modified one from a 
6400/6500). This is a good modification, greatly improving the video 
rendering speed.

I have a 6360 as my "main" computer with a NewerTech 400mhz G3. It makes 
a nice speedy machine. Haven't tried to put the NewerTech 400mhz G3 into 
a 5200. It may fit, but I had to do a small bit of sheet metal work to 
get it into the 6360. There are many "Cache Slot" G3 cards and others may 
fit the 5200 with no problem. I suspect you can find one for a reasonable 
price on eBay or the LEM Swap list. If you have a 5200 and want to make 
it useful, this is the way to go.

On my 5200/TV machine, I installed 8.6. Seems stable and works flawlessly 
for my needs.

The 5200/6300 has 9.1 because that is what was on the hard drive I 
installed. Also works well.

The 6360/G3 also has 9.1. Good compatibility with all applications. The 
G3 makes it a speedy machine, though still limited a bit in video 
display. If you are a gamer, probably a limitation. If you want to use 
your computer to do email, run AppleWorks or even Office 2001, it is more 
than adequate.

In short, road apples, maybe, but still useful machines.

Ken

Use it up, wear it out, make it do or do without.


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