Hi,
Let me try to explain it a bit more.
Oracle has chosen to "certify" a small number of Linux distros because
we can't test them all.
That is 100% unrelated to which distros have a fontconfig.properties.
We can certify just fine on ones that DO NOT have such a file.
ie existence of fontconfig.properties != certifiable.
The existence of such a file for ANY distro in JDK 7 can be considered
"legacy" or
"wholly unnecessary".
If you create one you have to go to the trouble of finding good fonts
you KNOW
will be there and you have to figure out where they are etc.
OpenJDK can't even rely on the Lucida fonts (I hope your patches weren't
relying
on them else the assertion this would help openjdk would be very far
from the
truth) that we traditionally used for support of West European.
The maintenance issue is that when Ubuntu.NEXT comes out, you need to
provide a new file. Now its darn near impossible, unless you are the distro,
to sync up a JDK release with an Ubuntu release.
So whilst I see no problem with Ubuntu providing a custom file with their
bundled OpenJDK build, they don't need to if they don't want to. But
every one else should keep well away
We do not have the resources to keep up.
So the supported, standard, going forward solution is to NEVER use these
files.
We came *this close* to deleting the lot of them in JDK 7, even the ones you
see now. A few were kept around for reasons that were not essential.
So that, in a long nutshell, is why I don't want to see them re-appear,
especially
for OpenJDK and especially for platforms we aren't going to be able to test.
-phil.
On 11/4/2011 1:09 AM, Jing Lv wrote:
Hello Phil,
Thanks for reply. I understand the standard JDK (the Oracle
JDK7 etc) may have some standard to follow which is judged by business
decision.
Anyway for the OpenJDK community, I guess it may be more helpful
to open to someone is interested in and willing to contribute, and
then with these patches the OpenJDK may support more platforms or have
better accessibility - at least it's no harm to the community, and a
plus to the code base.
I don't catch you what "maintenance pain" it is, as the patch is
just a few plain text configuration, without complex logic and may not
break any thing.
On 2011/11/4 0:19, Phil Race wrote:
Jimmy,
1. Adding a fontconfig.properties for a distro and version will not
make it appear on the
Oracle supported/certified list. It will remain
unsupport/uncertified as that's a business decision.
2. Adding fontconfig.properties files is not needed in JDK 7. See
"Support for Linux Fonts" at
http://download.oracle.com/javase/7/docs/technotes/guides/2d/enhancements70.html
The result is JDK uses the same fonts as the Linux desktop for
logical fonts which I think is a plus.
So I don't see such a patch as needed. It just restores the
maintenance pain we have just got rid of.
-phil.
On 11/3/11 12:42 AM, Jing Lv wrote:
(Forward this mail for 2d list as it is more appropriate)
Hello,
I see in the list
(http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/system-configurations-135212.html
, so openjdk has the same list for support platform as standard
jdk), SLES10/11, RHEL5 are on the list (surprising ubuntu is not),
so I suppose fontconfig.properties is required for SLES10/11,
RHEL5, I'd like to post the patch if no objection.
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [Accessibility]Add fontconfig.properties files for
SLES10/11, RHEL5, Ubuntu 8.04 etc
Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 14:46:51 +0800
From: Jing Lv <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Hello,
I happen to find out JDK7 miss fontconfig.properties for
SLES10/11, RHEL5, Ubuntu 8.04 etc. Are these platforms supported by
OpenJDK? If so, I suppose add them may be friendly to the customers
working on that. I've prepare some patch, the file
fontconfig.properties and modification on the makefile. I'd like to
post
it on the list if no objection.
Thank you.
Jimmy
