hello, 

The 808 was a mainstay back in the 80's, but that stuff is rarely used
anymore. Ever since the first sampling drum machines started coming out
in the late 80's and early 90's (EMU sp-1200, Roger Linn's Akai
MPC-60...) the 808 has been fading out. You can really start to hear the
shift around the time Bell Biv Devoe and that era of commercial R&B
started coming out. That whole era of stuttering, swung-out snare drum
roll's would not have been possible without the shuffle function Roger
Linn programmed into the MPC-60(and co-incidentally alot of that era of
R&B sounds so grungy because of of the fact that the MPC-60 was only a
12 bit sampler) The MPC series, and the rising cost of 808's really put
the 808 out of business in black music in the 1990's. 

You can still hear altered samples on the 808 on commercial black
radio(even though demographically it is actually white radio) Listen to
some of that shite coming out of Cash Money or no-limit, and you will
find 808 samples. Then again that stuff is all sampling drum machines
too. Bling Bling, The Block is Hot, any of that crap, it all comes out
of an MPC. 

Gear-rant mode : off
Mike Taylor

NP : Wolfgang Voight/Gas : 20-2000

Andrew Duke wrote:
> 
> blair: many of today's pop musicians don't have the
> reverence for the 808 and other classic gear like
> those on a list such as this might have. so, when
> an 808's sounds do make it into one of today's
> pop songs, it is likely "just another drum sample",
> nothing special,
> to the person using it ie just one of many drum
> sounds in a sampler, sampler disc, cdr, etc. they
> might be using an 808 in some way and not even
> realize it or even care. andrew duke
> 
> Blair McBride wrote:
> 
> > i know that the 808 was used a lot in mainstream music in the 80's and
> > whatnot. does anyone know how widely used it is today in hiphop/rnb/etc?
> >
> > the rnb group blaque has a track called 808 and although im not a fan of
> > rnb, i was attracted to the song at first cause they sang about an 808
> > (among other things). i was under the impression that 808's are rarely used
> > today in most popualar music, and i thought that blaque just sang about
> > 808's to be old skool.
> >
> > any thoughts?
> >
> > blair
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