i also grew up in australia in the 80s--in sydney. my experience sounds very
different to yours.
the early 80s were crap. nearly everyone was a junky, we all lived in squats,
there were no jobs. thatcher and reagan ran the free world. skinheads beat you
up during the week, and on the weekend yobs came into town to go poofter
bashing.

you think people get wasted at clubs today? rohypnols were free to the
unemployed, so everyone was walking into walls at clubs. (you don't even want to
hear what things were like before they took mandrax [quaaludes] of the market)
.the acid was stuff called 'green beavers' that lasted for two days. people
regularly died in the toilets at clubs from heroin overdoses.

clubs and bars had to have a no doc martens or cropped hair policy to try and
reduce the violence. the bouncers hated you because you had strage haircuts and
would throw you down the stairs just for sport. even being at bondi beach after
sunset was considered dangerous.

i'm much happier with a room full of kids on pills handing out candy and trying
to put hello kitty stickers on me. now the most dangerous thing i have to worry
about is being accidentally wacked on the head by a glowstick.

james






"Cyclone Wehner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 05/10/2000 07:43:30 PM

To:   313 Detroit <[email protected]>
cc:    (bcc: James Bucknell/Magazines/Hearst)
Subject:  Re: [313] age then vs. age now




Not to sound like an old dog but growing up in the 80s was just great -
period. The pop and club music was great. I was into everything from
Grandmaster Flash to Prince to Madonna to Propaganda to Ultravox to Human
League. Even A Flock of Seagulls! Kids today have what - Euro trance like
Sash! and Backstreet Boys? (Mind, Missy Elliott is cool.) I used to go
truant to hit the big smoke and spend my few dollars on music magazines
which I then read in maths and science classes, in between songwriting and
reading Andy McKay's book on how to play the Fairlight Synth so I could be
the female Nick Rhodes. Much of my adult life has been spent acquiring all
the records I taped off the radio and couldn't afford - like Propaganda. The
thought of getting wasted never occurred to us and it obviously didn't occur
to the likes of all those  early party-goers in 80s Detroit either. I can't
believe how many wasted, young (as in 18/19) people I saw at Two Tribes
(with Hawtin) and Hardware 16 (with Mills) lately in Melbourne and the
promoters here are very, very responsible with Richie McNeill going public
on the issue.  What can you do, though? They often search bags at Hardware
events but they can't strip search and stop people from taking drugs. I
prefer club events - Mills in Sydney at Home and Innovator, where you get an
older more sophisticated crowd who have been there and done that and are
there for the music and social experience. Drugs are anti-social!

Rant Transmission Over!

C

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