[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...but I admit that many of them are poorly produced, the writing
isn't all that great, and they do not really work in a modern context. I
love them because they sound so old, so primitive, and because in
many ways they laid the groundwork for so much of what came after...
Andy replied:
sorry, man. but this rubbish. early m500/metroplex is surely not poorly
produced at all. juan`s early works still kick ass in 2000 and will
still be working in ANY modern context beyond the year 00, while any
modern
type 4/4 bangtech all sound alike music is almost forgotten once the dj
enters the next one in the mix...
and Askew commented:
I'd have to agree with Andy here. Some early techno records might have raw
production, mixing and muddy pressings, but these records are also full of
the kind of raw expression (soul) that's so hard to find in 'modern'
techno.
Sure... in some of his production work the edits and mixing are a little
loose, but he was doing it all live. And if I was making music that good
I'd
be getting a little carried away too! :)
There's a difference producing music with a portastudio or with a
reel-to-reel tapemachine, than it is with a digital system. It's so easy to
put a shit loop going thru a digital Yamaha mixer to hard disk-recorder,
then make perfect edits and tricks workin' hours and hours in front of your
screen. Of course you can make "better" sounding music like that!!!
I'd rather listen to lo-fi tracks with tape hiss, tracks that have emotion
and trying, than to listen to these clinical super produced 909-kick tracks.
They can be good now and then, but THEY'RE BASICALLY TOOLS, these
mono-tracks and such... (Not dissin' Mills)
And what's "modern context"? If you can't make old tracks work with the new
ones, you gotta ask yourself are you a good DJ? Should you be doin' this at
all?
It is unfortunate to say, but the truth is that none of these new
tracks/tools are gonna last as they're own. Maybe as a genre they will be
recognized from 20 years from now, but who is Marco Carola in 2020?
I'm not saying that Model 500 songs will be necessarely recognized either,
but I think they have a better chance, BECAUSE THEY ARE SONG BASED. OK,
maybe loosely so, but they do have changes in they're structure that put
them in the song category... Thus making them more accessible to the
(western) ear.
I know it is liberating to think that now the "barriers" between real
musicians and "amateurs" are vanished, that mass-acceptance is now possible,
but it's also showing us that real musical skill are still something to be
trained for. Even that may not be enough.
If someone thinks that the person writing this is showing off his "perfect
pitch" or something, you couldn't be more wrong. I can't read notes, can't
play any instruments or think perfect melodies. But if I ever make music,
I'll try not to get away as easy as possible, puttin' a loop to play and
going drinking my coffee as the DAT rolls....
Proffit
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