I didn't realize music was such a pony race folks.  All due respect to the
313 people and their huge mental reservoirs of music trivia but... I'll
second a previous lister when I ask that we go private with this thread...
it turned into nothing but bashing other peoples' tastes which isn't very
progressive now is it? :)

Ryan Heard

-----Original Message-----
From: Sarah Weiss [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 10:59 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [313] Let's Talk Techno


> >What do u mean by "truly innovative".  I think that
> >there is nothing in between something that is
> >innovative and something that is not.  Innovative is
> >just making changes in anything established.  So i
> >cant see why Carl Craig isn't innovative, u just have
> >to listen to "Innerzone orchestra Programmed".
>
>Goldie and much of the drum 'n' bass contingent reckon he's innovative, too
>- remember Bug In The Bassbin?



i might be going on a limb here.. when i first heard of innerzone orchestra,
i thought to myself, 'ok, it's carl craig, trying to do some free-formish
electronic jazz oriented music.. i need to get this..' being a HUGE fan of
tortoise and isotope 217, both from chicago, i figured that innerzone
orchestra was just what i needed.. i find much of the innerzone orchestra
material to be boring and repetitive.. isotope 217 especially, [tortoise not
so much because they aren't as electronically based, except for the
phenomenal remixes cd] blows carl craig out of the water when it comes to
the jazz/electronic fusion idea.. this thought was even shared by a close
friend of mine who was into craig many years before i was, and who is also a
big tortoise/isotope 217 fan.. call us northern michigan kids crazy, if you
will.. carl craig hasn't ever really done all that much for me, anyway.. but
what do i know.. i've only been into the detroit techno scene for a year..
;)

- sarah

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