>Does anyone here have any opinions on Tobias Schmidt's _Dark of >Heartness_? i think it's heart of darkness,on tresor right? but it's been a while since i've listened to it so i may be wrong. anyway, i know it's very good. really dark material with some very interesting bass sounds from what i remember. i would recommend giving any of tobias schmidt's stuff a listen. i know i do, always interesting ideas going on.
> -----Original Message----- > From: ozymandias G desiderata [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 10:21 PM > To: Dennis Donohue > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > [email protected] > Subject: Re: [313] Surgeon > > > >>>>> "dd" == Dennis Donohue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > dd> My favorite Surgeon track is definitely "La Real", off of his > dd> label counterbalance (CB02). I love what Tony is doing > dd> recently, the counterbalance stuff is great. I've heard a lot > dd> of coments on this list about how he, (and other people > dd> playing similar music - dubbed "boom-boom-boom") have no > dd> "groove" or "funk" to them. I would have to dissagree. To > dd> me, this is the stuff that gives me that rush of energy. This > dd> is what gives me inspiration to dance. > > At one point I'd written Surgeon off as someone whose only talent was > making derivative copies of _Waveform Transmissions, v1_-era Jeff > Mills. I really liked "Badger Bite" and "Magneze" but was disappointed > by how distorted and repetitive _Communications_ and > _basictonalvocabulary_ were. So I set his stuff aside for a while. > Eventually, I heard his remix of Mogwai's "Fear Satan", which was all > shimmering ambient drones and chimes and absolutely unlike anything > else I've heard by him. It's beautiful. It's certainly better than > anything Mogwai have done on their own. > > Last year, on a whim, I picked up _Force + Form_ and was absolutely > blown away. Techno's history is littered with concept albums, but for > whatever reason, _Force + Form_ works far better for me than almost > all of them (with the possible exception of Plastikman's _Consumed_). > The album is a totally coherent musical statement and has absolutely > pristine production, and is the best mixture of dance and head music > I've heard in a long time. The music is complex enough to be > involving, but simple enough to be completely propulsive and > danceable. In fact, that album (oddly enough) is what rejuvenated my > interest in techno and got me to rejoin this list after a several year > absence. And I'm totally jonesing to hear some folks in SF play that > sort of complicated, polyrhythmic minimalism on a loud sound system. > > dd> I think, if you are going to compile a list of music like this > dd> that is influential, you would have to include Adam Beyer and > dd> Marco Carola (at least), if not Gaetek, Christian Smith and > dd> joel mull. > > I agree that they've been influential, but I'd disagree if you were to > argue that that's a good thing. Those folks were large part what > pushed me away from techno. The whole Scandinavian banging sound was > too raw for me; what I like about Surgeon is how pristine his recent > material sounds (and his basslines _do_ have soul, if you pay > attention to them). If it's going to be raw, it needs extra soul -- > something Jeff Mills and Mad Mike understand very well, but the folks > on Primate don't (in my opinion, natch). > > The folks I have clumped into Surgeon's constellation include James > Ruskin, and Oliver Ho. All started from roughly the same point > (unvarnished love for Mills' and Young's variety of uncompromising > minimalism) and all of them have developed a more intricate, tribal > sound over the past few years. Sometimes it gets difficult to tell > Ruskin and Surgeon apart (on record; I've never seen either of them > DJ), which is sort of a problem for me, but I'm not sure why, because > I really love the music. > > Along those lines, on another whim I picked up Karl O'Connor and Peter > Sutton's _Against Nature_ on Tresor recently, and its much the same as > the aforementioned and is also really, really good. So I guess I have > to add Regis and Female (which means we now have the entire Downwards > roster here, doesn't it?) to the list of folks who are doing > interesting things in this vein. It's much less harsh and distorted > than the old Regis and Female stuff, and I'd almost be willing to bet > money that Surgeon lent a hand in the studio during the making of > this. Most of it is pretty banging (the Tresor site wants us to > believe that it's "industrial", but 30 second chunks of found sound do > not an industrial record make), but "Under Skin" is the sort of > wrenchingly pretty instrumental interlude that wouldn't be out of > place on a Derrick May or Jeff Mills record. > > I should see if Harald is interested in updating his Tresor > discography. They've been putting out the goods recently. > > Does anyone here have any opinions on Tobias Schmidt's _Dark of > Heartness_? > > ob313: Only three years late, I finally picked up the Derrick May > _Innovator_ comp today. It's really, really nice to have all those > self-evidently seminal tracks in one place. :) I have no idea why it > took me so long. > > Forrest > > . . . the self-reflecting image of a narcotized mind . . . > ozymandias G desiderata [EMAIL PROTECTED] desperate, deathless > (415)558-9064 http://www.aoaioxxysz.com/ ::AOAIOXXYSZ:: > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
