So basically summing up your reply to Mike, all you have to add to this
thread is belittling Mike's long, thoughtful message. Even though Mike is
offering a great deal of generalizations and minimizations, what he is
saying is a personal opinion. People seem to think you can cover all of
the bases and have some sort of perfect discussion full of
examples/counterexamples, and exceptions. The reality of argument isn't
really like that though. So jumping on Mike's ass and offering idiotic
one-liners to waste the bandwidth of the list isn't going to make arguing
anymore perfect.  

Yes, hugh, you are exactly right. music is music, and you can't color
music. You certainly CAN however, color the politics of music, and the
business of music. The culture of music can also be colored by the
aforementioned business and politics. This is the point I believe Mike is
trying to make.

> That's kinbd of an over-generalization. I know a lot of people who *only* go 
> there if there's someone playing that they want to hear.
> 
> He played some pretty good tracks last Sat., man.
> 
> That's 100% true and I don't think many people would disagree with you.
> 
> I thought music was music. Didn't know you can color sound.
> 
> Wow you're jaded.
> 
> And all in 10 years or less, huh.

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