SF-raves is also in that movie "Groove" http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0212974/
2011/7/12 Fred Heutte <ph...@sunlightdata.com>: > Actually I thought there was some good stuff and some that was so > bad it was basically also good. > > I joined the 4AD list, not really rave oriented but one of the first > standalone music oriented mailing lists, in 1989. At one point around > mid-1992 I was on sfraves, socal-raves, ne-raves and uk-dance > (nwraves a little later and 313 in early 1995), and a regular on vrave > so I know the actual history quite well. > > In retrospect I think the lists reflected rather than drove the state of > the "scene", but they were important to reaching out and seeing > that there was more to all this than a few scattered oddball breakouts > of electronic music. > > And there were some priceless moments. I don't indulge in nostalgia > much but I bring out the bit below once in a while for grins... The > contributors > to this (on ne-raves) were from every part of the US, coast to coast, north > to south. > > Coincidentally at the moment I am in Salt Lake City, home of Pete > Ashdown to whom goes the credit for the eternal phrase, "Go away Moby!" > I think Pete is still involved with xmission.com > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_Ashdown > > The first rave in Utah: > > http://groups.google.com/group/alt.rave/msg/2179de90e9d7ce5f > > fh > > > ----------------- > > (ne-raves archive) > > Date: Mon, 7 Dec 92 14:08:49 EST > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Moby update > > Hello everyone! > > Ummmmmmm, just thought I would mention this interesting tidbit that > happened to me this morning. I was woken up from a deep slumber at 11AM by > a phone call from none other than MOBY. He wanted my address so he could > send me a revised version of the MOBY FAQ that Mike Brown is currently > maintaining (I gave him a copy a few weeks ago). He then asked me about > recommendations for Macintosh computers. He was shopping for one to use > in his studio. When I get the update, I'll make sure I both > > a) post it > b) send it to Mike for revision/addition > > Sorry to waste bandwidth, but I thought it was cool. > > dieselBoy > > PS : Anyone who is anyone *should not* miss Laura's party. They are the best! > PPS: Evan, Mars, Kreig and Fluid : you boys better be there!!!!! > > [] [] [][] [][] [] [][] [][] [] [] > > Date: Wed, 9 Dec 92 18:02 EST > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Moby update > > Errrrgh! Can we keep the rumors about my party DOWN please! Moby *MIGHT* > have come to the *LAST* one, but that's in the past and has no bearing > on this weekend. As far as I know he wasn't even invited. I don't know > him personally. > > Laura > > [] [] [][] [][] [] [][] [][] [] [] > > Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1992 08:51:25 -0800 > From: Robert Campanell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Moby update > > Maybe Damian can advise him to get a modem with hix Mac, and then he can > subscribe to ne-raves and go to all of our fabulous pre-rave parties. > > - Rob > > [] [] [][] [][] [] [][] [][] [] [] > > Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1992 14:20:52 EST > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mindFsck) > Subject: Re: Moby update > > >>As far as I know he wasn't even invited. > > ah, but damian is supposed to have invited him... > >>I don't know him personally. >> > > damian is so famous these days that everyone calls him up on the phone. :) > > e va n > trEE > > [] [] [][] [][] [] [][] [][] [] [] > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Pete Ashdown) > Subject: Re: Moby update > Date: Thu, 10 Dec 92 16:03:52 MST > >> damian is so famous these days that everyone calls him up on the phone. :) > > Nahh, that Moby is just such a wanker he'll bother anyone for silly reasons. > He's always over at my place wanting to borrow CDs and read my magazines. > I'll often come home and he's sitting on the porch waiting for me to arrive, > usually, I'll just groan, "Moby go away, I'm busy." > > > > > > Joke son, it's a JOKE. > > [] [] [][] [][] [] [][] [][] [] [] > > From: Mike J. Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Moby update > Date: Thu, 10 Dec 92 23:22:15 EST > >> >> > damian is so famous these days that everyone calls him up on the phone. :) >> >> Nahh, that Moby is just such a wanker he'll bother anyone for silly reasons. >> He's always over at my place wanting to borrow CDs and read my magazines. >> I'll often come home and he's sitting on the porch waiting for me to arrive, >> usually, I'll just groan, "Moby go away, I'm busy." > > that's nothin. every time i turn around he's stopping in where i work, > begging me to be his manager and asking for my input on all his songs. > seems like every time he hits a creative block he comes running to me, > "mike, mike, you gotta help me, i can't think of anything to write" so > sometimes i say something like "why don't you sample a bunch of stuff > from tones on tail and twin peaks and stick a breakbeat under it?" or > other times i'll groan, "moby go away, i'm busy." > > mike > > [] [] [][] [][] [] [][] [][] [] [] > > Date: 10 Dec 1992 23:57:44 -0500 (EST) > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: moby > > listen folks.. moby lives 4 doors down from me on Mott street. every night > he rings my buzzer.. taylor.. can you come over and help me with my MIDI > system.. i have no idea what i'm doing? so i go over.. patch up all his > synths.. jam some trance with him (i wrote "help me to believe").. > > then the hard part comes.. i want to go home. and he won't let me.. "oh please > stay.. your music is so cool!" he says...come on.. i'll give you an S1100. > tis' the same thing.. day after day... > > moby.. can't you see i'm busy. > > :) > >>>taylor.device.909 > > ps: on a serious note: did anyone else hear that he got signed to a MAJOR > label? i did.. and was wondering if it was true... > > [] [] [][] [][] [] [][] [][] [] [] > > Date: Thu, 10 Dec 92 21:08:01 -0800 > From: Brian Behlendorf (Vitamin B) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Moby update > >>> > damian is so famous these days that everyone calls him up on the phone. :) >>> >>> Nahh, that Moby is just such a wanker he'll bother anyone for silly reasons. >>> He's always over at my place wanting to borrow CDs and read my magazines. >>> I'll often come home and he's sitting on the porch waiting for me to arrive, >>> usually, I'll just groan, "Moby go away, I'm busy." > >>that's nothin. every time i turn around he's stopping in where i work, >>begging me to be his manager and asking for my input on all his songs. >>seems like every time he hits a creative block he comes running to me, >>"mike, mike, you gotta help me, i can't think of anything to write" so >>sometimes i say something like "why don't you sample a bunch of stuff >>from tones on tail and twin peaks and stick a breakbeat under it?" or >>other times i'll groan, "moby go away, i'm busy." > > yeah yeah yeah. I know what you mean - he used to use me to get samples for > him off of FTP sites, until I told him to enroll in a rudimentary Unix class > so he could get them for himself. Then he begged me for a Soda account so I > said fine. (try it - [EMAIL PROTECTED]) That was a mistake. Now he's > "write"ing me > all the time, asking how to read mail and what "NNTP" means. I haven't told > him about any of the rave lists yet because I'm afraid he'll just completely > dominate them, telling us how "fscking great, man" that damned 1000 BPM song > is. Yesterday he sent me a talk request asking how to delete files, so I > said, > "moby go away, I'm busy." > > Brian > > [] [] [][] [][] [] [][] [][] [] [] > > Date: 11 Dec 92 08:56:38 EDT > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Moby > > You guys are lucky ! He comes to me for dance lessons. "Golden Boy" he says, > man you truly RAVE. Do you think you can teach me how to dance like that. > But "Moby", I say, I've already taught you a few things, go from there, > now go away, can't you see I'm busy. > > Golden Boy > > [] [] [][] [][] [] [][] [][] [] [] > > Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 09:47:20 EST > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mindFsck) > Subject: Re: Moby > >> >> >>You guys are lucky ! He comes to me for dance lessons. "Golden Boy" he says, >>man you truly RAVE. Do you think you can teach me how to dance like that. >>But "Moby", I say, I've already taught you a few things, go from there, >>now go away, can't you see I'm busy. >> >>Golden Boy >> > > "e va n," he says, "you did such a good job with drop a beat, go, and next is > the > e- please come out of the closet! i can't bear taking credit for your techno > songwriting genius any more; it's driving me crazy! maybe you can get that > 'short goofy looking' guy dieselBoy to help you out." > "moby," i say, "shut up. all you have to do is dance around and pretend you're > playing your one keyboard on stage- isn't that easy enough?? now go away, > SHOO, i have more important things to do- like going to laura's party saturday > night!" > "gee, e va n," he asks, "can i come?" > "no," i respond, "of course not!!!" > > e va n > trEE > > o n e r a v e n a t i o n > > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > bbsbsbsbbs bbsbsbsbbs bbsbsbsbbs bbsbsbsbbs bbsbsbsbbs bbsbsbsbbs > > / \ > || > > breakbeat for thought > > [] [] [][] [][] [] [][] [][] [] [] > > Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 10:17:24 -0500 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dan English) > Subject: moby > > but the worst is when he calls me up to borrow clothes, > "camper, do you have a long sleeve t-shirt i can wear tonite?.." > but he's sneaky too., "hey camper, where did you say you got that hat?" > then next thing you know, he shows up at a rave wearing the same thing > as me. i hate that. from now on, when he asks me i'll say, > go away moby, i'm busy. > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > stay groovy. > camper english that's not MY snot! @buphy.bu.edu > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > [] [] [][] [][] [] [][] [][] [] [] > > Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 10:17 EST > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Moby > > This is so much fun. I want to play. > > e va n says: > >>"moby," i say, "shut up. all you have to do is dance around and pretend you're >>playing your one keyboard on stage- isn't that easy enough?? now go away, >>SHOO, i have more important things to do- like going to laura's party saturday >>night!" >>"gee, e va n," he asks, "can i come?" >>"no," i respond, "of course not!!!" > > Actually, he calls me all the time wanting to know where the raves are. > "moby," i say, "shut up. all the information i know is in rave-o-matic. > now go away and try ftp to media-lab.mit.edu. Or go bother Heather Heather." > > Laura > (hey, I need a name. any suggestions?) > > [] [] [][] [][] [] [][] [][] [] [] > > Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 12:54:37 -0500 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike Perkowitz) > Subject: moby > > you guys are crazy. ;) > > moby is always writing me long, florid, angst-filled letters on cheap > stationery, moaning that he has no meaning in his life. "why are we > here?" he'll ask. ""should i read nietzsche? what about aquinas"? > finally, i got sick of him and told him "moby, go become a monk or > something. or better yet, check out fundamentalism. it's *rteal* cool." > > mike > > t i n t i n n a b u l a t i o n > > [] [] [][] [][] [] [][] [][] [] [] > > Date: 11 Dec 1992 12:22:04 -0500 (EST) > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: moby... > > poor guy! if he could only see what we're doing to him. maybe i'll get him > over here and show him all these things we're been writing..but no, then he'd > ask to play with all my keyboards.. and want to show me some of his new stuff. > i'm just to busy for that moby. > >>>taylor.trance.device > > [] [] [][] [][] [] [][] [][] [] [] > > Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 13:34:50 -0500 (EST) > From: "Jason P. Milletary" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: moby... > >> poor guy! if he could only see what we're doing to him. maybe i'll get him > > oh sure...and he'll come crawling to me as usual... > > Jason...they're making fun of me... > "uh, moby" > you're so together...and i lack that self-confidence > "uh...moby...dood" > please help me.... > "just keep thinking...I'm good enough..I'm smart enough...and gosh darnit, > people like me...no go away...im busy" > > l808r, > --jason (dj guile) > > [] [] [][] [][] [] [][] [][] [] [] > > Subject: Moby (hmm!) > From: John A Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 14:00:05 -0500 > > Well, I was at a somewhat private rave one time and this weird guy comes over. > "Like, cool T-Shirt, man. Can I buy it off you?" > "No, Fscking way". I said," who do you think you are, Moby?" > "Yes, I am", he said and wandered off...................... > > Troc (the British raver, who seems to be lost in the USA) > !---------------------------------------!-------------------------------------! > ! John Savage : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ! Wot no disclaimer? ! > !---------------------------------------!-------------------------------------! > ! or using "snail-mail" at :- !"I see a dark sail on the horizon. > ! > ! ! Set under a black cloud that hides > ! > ! Apt # 205 ! the sun. Bring me my broadsword > ! > ! 2905 N. Charles St, ! and clear understanding. Bring me > ! > ! Baltimore, ! my cross of gold as a talisman." > ! > ! Maryland 21218 ! > ! > ! U.S.A. ! Jethro Tull, Broadsword > ! > !---------------------------------------!-------------------------------------! > > [] [] [][] [][] [] [][] [][] [] [] > > Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 14:26:37 -0500 (EST) > From: Alan Michael Parry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: moby > > Your not gonna believe this... > > This morning I got a phone call from none other than moby. He called me > at 8:00am, woke me up, and said "Fluid..I need your help...My printer just > ran out of paper and I don't know how to reload it." Well I tried to > explain it to him over the phone but he still didn't understand so I went > round to his house and showed him how to do it. > Anyway, I was just about ready to leave when he called after me "Fluid, > Fluid,...come back. Now my computer is working!" ..."try plugging it in to > the wall moby" I said. > > You'd think a guy like moby could figure these thing out...but no. Next > time I'll just say "go away moby- - I'm busy" > > [] [] [][] [][] [] [][] [][] [] [] > > Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 14:16:58 PST > From: "Pat Dote" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: moby... > > REPLY TO 12/11/92 10:51 FROM [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Jason P. Milletary": Re: > moby... > > hey doods, don]t be busting on moby, doods, he rocks. o.k.? like you > could do almost half the things he could do with half your skills > doods, so like just cut it out doods.... Shopwell fscking rules the > world doods so f##king step-off. ingrates. and that cool world > soundtrack: f##king brillant. > > baaa > > and for my next trick, sticking my head in the bass cabinet. > > pat > > > ------------ > >> good article, a little off at times (seriously... Rob Theakston is just "a >>Detroit rave veteran"???), but a good read. >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: jeremy bispo [mailto:jbi...@gmail.com] >>Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 2:12 PM >>To: list 313 >>Subject: (313) NPR: How The Internet Transformed The American Rave Scene >> >>http://www.npr.org/blogs/therecord/2011/07/11/137680680/how-the-internet-tra >>nsformed-the-american-rave-scene >> >>-- >>Best, >>Jeremy >> >>As You Like It >>Founder & Executive Producer >>skype: jeremybispo >>i...@ayli-sf.com >>www.ayli-sf.com >> >> > > -- http://soundcloud.com/w1b0 | http://network.technobass.net/profile/w1b0 | http://twitter.com/w1b0 --
