That’s the worst part about you. Your commitment to not admitting when/that you (God forbid) could have been wrong or handled something the wrong way:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-squeaky-wheel/201811/why-certain-people-will-never-admit-they-were-wrong%3Famp On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 11:24 PM Denise Dalphond <denisedalph...@gmail.com> wrote: > I blocked Kent a long time ago, so I had to go to my spam folder to read > this. Took me a minute. I have no response to Kent directly. > > This all started because Andrew Duke sent a list to our listserv and I > asked a pretty neutral question and then somebody tried to white wash it. > That's it. Relax. > > > > *Denise Dalphond, Ph.D.* > *ethnomusicologist* > *schoolcraftwax.work <http://schoolcraftwax.work>* > > > On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 10:34 AM kent williams <chaircrus...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> On the one hand, Denise has valid points. >> >> On the other hand she attacks people who have done nothing but good for >> the Techno community, has never minimized the contribution of black >> artists, and has never centered themselves in the discussion. >> >> Denise, you need to find a way to make the points you want to make >> without making other people want to leave the 313 list. >> >> I've never wanted to silence anyone on this list and have never banned >> anyone just for being outspoken, but at this point this list is a shadow of >> its former self, and a lot of it has to do with people posting things that >> make people feel uncomfortable. And not the 'questioning my privilege' >> uncomfortable, like 'being personally attacked without justification' >> uncomfortable. >> >> I don't just see the public posts, I get private e-mails all the time >> with complaints about other list members. Those are private, but regular >> list members only see what's on the list. >> >> No one can argue with Denise's contribution to music scholarship dealing >> with black music, and no one should. >> >> But being aggressive and disagreeable on the mailing list makes it about >> you, not about the music or the people. >> >> On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 9:21 AM cnd <3...@coke-smyth.net> wrote: >> >>> Allgxxd >>> >>> I hear you essay >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> On 2020-06-24 14:11, Daniel Bean wrote: >>> > Whoops sorry, meant to send that to the list. >>> > >>> > ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>> > From: DANIEL BEAN <danbean....@gmail.com> >>> > Date: Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 2:08 PM >>> > Subject: Re: Techno links from a Black perspective (fixed) >>> > To: Denise Dalphond <denisedalph...@gmail.com> >>> > >>> > Have to agree with Denise here, the idea that we can somehow ignore >>> > race in techno (or any other American music forms for that matter) is >>> > ludicrous, especially at the moment. >>> > >>> > On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 1:32 PM Denise Dalphond >>> > <denisedalph...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> > >>> >> Have you read my dissertation? Your suggestion makes no sense. Did >>> >> you know Portia Maultsby was my teacher? Have you seen that chart of >>> >> Black music genres floating around IG and FB? She made that. >>> >> That’s part of her life’s work. And now, since I got to help her >>> >> with it in graduate school, I get to help her update it >>> >> professionally. So, shhhh. >>> >> >>> >> Do you not live in the United States? Do you not understand what is >>> >> changing here in the United States? Stop embarrassing yourself. >>> >> >>> >> And why didn’t you get mad at Andrew Duke for sharing it? >>> >> >>> >> Denise Dalphond >>> >> >>> >> On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 5:24 AM Sjoerd <sjoerdvell...@gmail.com> >>> >> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> Denise, is there any Social Justice Bandwagon you will not jump on? >>> >> For the love of the 808, please refrain from this and find common >>> >> ground in the beauty of this music instead of trying to sow division >>> >> between people by this racebaiting. >>> >> >>> >> I think few people care if the writer of the article has a Black or >>> >> White skin colour, since what matters is the message, and the >>> >> message is T-E-C-H-N-O and Unity between people from all walks of >>> >> life. >>> >> >>> >> Andrew, thanks for posting this. A lot has been written on the >>> >> subject of Detroit Techno and I appreciate someone took the time and >>> >> effort to collect them all. Seriously, the further we move forward >>> >> in time, the more I realize that the future about this technological >>> >> dystopia was already written way back in the 80's, with the origins >>> >> of Techno in the Motorcity. >>> >> >>> >> On Mon, 22 Jun 2020 at 16:11, Denise Dalphond >>> >> <denisedalph...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> A majority of those articles and books are by white people. What do >>> >> they mean by Black perspective. You could also go to the Dancecult >>> >> website: https://dancecult-research.net/references/ >>> >> >>> >> Denise >>> >> >>> >> On Mon, Jun 22, 2020 at 9:53 AM Andrew Duke >>> >> <andrewdukecognit...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> Dweller Electronics >>> >> >>> >> writings from a black perspective >>> >> >>> >> Our co-editor Ryan Clarke has researched a list of articles, >>> >> interviews and documentaries about techno and its history. We have >>> >> compiled it into this library that will be updated as we find more >>> >> relevant work. >>> >> >>> >> It is organized by date and divided into two lists “Reading” and >>> >> “Audio/Visual”. >>> >> >>> >> https://dwellerforever.blog/library >>> > -- >>> > Denise Dalphond, Ph. D. >>> > ethnomusicologist >>> > schoolcraftwax.work [1] >>> > >>> > Links: >>> > ------ >>> > [1] http://schoolcraftwax.work >>> >>>
