Absolutely. Trance came from Detroit techno. Stardancer is the obvious example. Also, think: Sun Electric's "Entrance". The title is not a coincidental mispelling. And Sun Electric are only a few steps of collaborations from Eddie Fowlkes, Juan Atkins, Moritz Von Oswals, etc.
I got into this stuff with "Rave" and "Acid House" around 90-91 with the Lords of Acid, etc. When I first heard Waveform Transmissions, I thought it was trance because it came out on Pow Wow Trance. Artist like Oliver Lieb are clearly in a huge debt to Detroit. Maybe we should invent a new distinction between Trance and trance. Umm... maybe not. A lot of early trance is good music. Unfortunately new trance has spoiled it for us. I can hardly listen to a lot of it anymore. I think this is a great example of what could happen to techno if it got bigger. Maybe not though, since techno is much broader, less confined, and more dynamic than trance ever was. Tristan ========================================== PHONOPSIA<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Lounge/5102 "FrogboyMCI" on AOL Instant Messenger "Feeling Like A Kid Again... My Eyes Are Glued to the Floor. I Hope I Mumble Goodbye As You Walk Out the Door. UhOhUhohh... UhOhUhohhh... UhOhUhohhh... The Damage is Done." - Yo La Tengo -----Original Message----- From: christos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 313@hyperreal.org <313@hyperreal.org> Date: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 9:03 PM Subject: [313] did we influence....trance? > >Okay, before I go on with my question, keep in mind that I am by no means >a trance fan AT ALL (at least trance fans by the convnetional definition). >Like every good 313 technohead, phrases like "Paul Okenfold sucks," "Epic >trance is cheese," and "Hey Pete Tong, I got your 'Essnetial Selection' >right here!" have become an integrated part of my discorse when talking >about all things electronic. > >However, while looking through the Submerge site (which is someing I >honestly do everyday....I am going nuts waiting for version 2.0) I noticed >that Red Planet 1 - 3 are labeled as "trance." I own all three of those >records, and musically, yes they do sound like trance (or at least what >trance would sound like if it had soul and if it was good). Furthermore, >I have heard a few old releases on Generator that if released today, would >probably be considered "trance" (again, GOOD trance with SOUL). > >I do not mean to insult red planet or generator, as they are some of my >favroite labels (and T-1000 one of my favroite djs), however, I wounder, >how much influence did we have on the development of trance? I understand >that the aforementioned releases could easily also be considered techno, >as UR defines techno as... "a music-based experimentation: it is sacred to >no one race; it has no definitive sound. It is music for the future of >the human race" however, I am just curious to see if we DID in fact >influence trance. It would be a bit ironic if we did, though nothing to >be ashamed of. Red Planet and Generator are/were 2 EXCELLENT labels. > > -christos > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
