For f**ks sake!!!! Why do we have to go over the same sh*t again and again week after f**king week???? I thought we had come to some sort of conclusion but I realise that non of these "discussions" ever reach a conclusion and ppl continue dissing and flamming about the same old b*ll*cks...
Who gives a f**k about the colour of the music? I don't... I don't exclusively listen to detroit techno either because I'm not biased and neither are most ordinary people. You like what you like regardless of it's origins unless you're a nazi.... or a hypocrite... Hypocrites seem to make up the bulk of the subscribers to this list... No wonder so many heads have unsubbed... No one wants to find an answer, they just wanna moan about the same old sh*t... I'm gonna give it 2 months and we'll be back on this subject again... out, Nick (Dj Pacific:) --- christos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I agree. Our music isn't "black" enough. It's too > fast, there's no > > rappin, mackin and pimpin in it, it's not "urban" > enough. House is too > > "gay". I have stopped worrying about it. If I was > waiting to get paid > > from negroes, I'd be living under the overpass on > I-75 and Mack. Or > > living in a refrigerator box like my man > Jean-Michel Basquiat. > > This is something that really bothers me. Although > I am white (or > caucasian, or whatever) , I think that cultural > diversity and a strong > black influence are what make Detroits music excell. > Think about this- > how many cheesy trance djs or happy hardcore djs are > black? Without the > black influence, or any cultural influence on dance > music, the music > becomes bland, boring, and lame. > > One reason behind this, is that 90% of Americans > think that "techno" or > electronic music in general is a European thing. > The mainstream music > industry adapts to such a belief and markets thier > product of dance music > to a white audience. Its amazing how well this > works, for even when you > have an alleged "underground rave scene" which has > grown nationwide, yet > still attracts a largely white suburban audience- > despite the fact that > the music originated in Black communities, and > despite the fact that > "ravers" cling to that stupid, hypocritical slogan > "PLUR." Market > segmentation, audience building, and stereotyping > are very sucessful tools > used by the media coroporations. > > To be able to go agianst the current black musician > stereotype is VERY > difficult. The media has burned in the minds of > America's youth that > black culture is all about "chillin in the ghetto," > and sex. A lot of > these racist stereotypes have been around for > hundreds of years. The > current "pimp" stereotype of a black man is very > insulting and dangerous > as it is reminicent of the old stereotype of black > men as sexual > preditors. It was this stereotype that slowed the > growth of early rock > and roll, as parents were scared that thier young, > teenage daughters were > idolizing Black men. I recall Mos Def once saying > that in the media, > whenever you see a white "pimp" they are always > running legal businesses, > and they are always referred to as "businessmen" > with a very professional > appeareance. Black "pimps" however are always > fitting the same stereotype, > and are often linked with sexual violence. > > Sorry about this rant, I can go on about this > forever. It just scares me > that dance music MIGHT fall down the same path as > rock, r'n'b, etc. It is > already heading that way with trance. > > -christos > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/
