Re:
> Look at Blues...it begat Bluegrass,

...and then it begat blueberries, right?   Blues has little to do with
bluegrass.   The former is based in African folk traditions, the latter
AFAIK in largely Irish traditions relocated to the American south (with >the noted addition of the African Banjo).

You can't really say that Bluegrass is derived _directly_ from the Blues but it did influence it as much as Gospel and regional (European descendant) Folk music did. Read on for more info on Bill Monroe who was the creator of Bluegrass music.


http://music.lycos.com/default.asp?DA=0&QW=Bill+Monroe&AID=18536&MID=19357&P=B

Bluegrass was created (?) by "Bill Monroe (William Smith Monroe, b. 13 September 1911, on a farm near Rosine, Ohio County, Kentucky, USA, d. 9 September 1996, Springfield, Tennessee, USA)"

"....Monroe also played with a black blues musician, Arnold Schultz, who was to become a major influence on his future music."


and hey! look! a Detroit connection:

"elder brothers Harry and Birch ...headed north, working for a time in the car industry in Detroit, before moving to Whiting and East Chicago, Indiana, where they were employed in the oil refineries.

"appearing as the Monroe Brothers...They became a very popular act and sang mainly traditional material, often with a blues influence.

"During the early 40s, Monroe's band was similar to other string bands such as Mainer's Mountaineers, but by the middle of the decade, the leading influence of Monroe's driving mandolin and his high (some would say shrill) tenor singing became the dominant factor, and set the Blue Grass Boys of Bill Monroe apart from the other bands. This period gave birth to a new genre of music, and led to Monroe becoming affectionately known as the Father of Bluegrass Music."

Rock n' Roll...then you have Jazz to Raggae, etc.

You're missing a couple key ingredients here:
Swing+Motown=Ska Ska begat Reggae once equipment got cheaper, and Jamaican
cops came down on the clubs (sound familiar?).

Where are you getting your music history from?
Try this:
Reggae is a music unique to Jamaica, but it ironically has its roots in New Orleans R&B. Reggae's direct forefather is ska, an uptempo, rhythmic variation based on the New Orleans R&B that Jamaican musicians heard as broadcasted from the US on their transistor radios. Relying on skittering guitar and syncopated rhythms, ska was their interpretation of R&B and it was quite popular in the early '60s. However, during one very hot summer, it was too hot to either play or dance to ska, so the beat was slowed down and reggae was born.
http://www.bobartsinstitute.edu/Reggae.htm



And Western cultures are not completely without rhythm. The drum is >core to
almost all traditions.  Celtic, Native American, etc.

Yes, that is true but it's largely not syncopated rhythm like that of Latin or African countries. Otherwise known as "the Funky drummer".

Why all this struggle to compartmentalize? It's a glorious soup. >Enjoy it
for that.

That's true...although it's good to know what the ingrediants are that make it so damn tasty! :)

What the hell was this thread originally about anyway?

Fred
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