Forget it Scott... Half the list has tried explaining your point before... Do they listen? Noooooo... It's like, after thousands of years of civilisation there are still wars and famine and disease... A person is clever but people are stupid... f**k 'em, don't bother complaining... I wonder if there are any half caste kids on the list? My cousin's are half caste but they act like they are black... Some act like they are white... Because it's weird to be trapped between two cultures...
The reason people are so xenophobic in my country is because people from other nations can come along and get what they want because people are too scared to tell them if they do wrong. As soon as a NATIVE, ABORIGINAL english person (oops almost said "man" there:) cries out about it, their chastised for being racist... Just forget it... Say anything about race and colour and people get shirty about it straight away as if it belongs to them... Well, this is a big f**k you to all you closed minded b***ards out there. Welcome to the 21st century... Another 100 years of death and hatred ahead I bet... Why can't people just put up with it, hey? It's only bl***y music for Christ's sake... Later suckers, Nick:) --- Scott Brandon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In response to KDJ quotes from Charles Prince... > > OK, > It takes a bit to get me to post, but here goes... > I'm so sick of this > Black/White thing... Race is race, and music is > music... The two are in > some ways intertwined but a piece of music is it's > own entity, sentient and > soveriegn... Yes the founding fathers of techno > were black, and deserve a > great deal of respect for their accomplishment... I > love KDJ's music... But > I can't help but be bothered that this stereotype, > and reverse racism is > being carried on.... To say that to understand > soul music you have to be > black, because that's who it was made by and > intended for, is like to say > that to understand Christianity you have to be > Jewish, because that's who it > was made by and initially intended for (Just an > anology)... The whole thing > sucks.... Ideas are Ideas... Techno is an Idea... > or if you look at it > Jeff Mill's way, it's beyond an Idea... > > Isn't techno constantly refered to as 'future > music'??? What about a future > that is void of a separation between races??? It > seems that actually many > people are still living in the past... I'm of white > skin color & I love > techno and house.... I ****FEEL**** techno, and > house in my soul... All of > it... From the hard to the deep (actually more on > the deep side)... Who's > to say who can and can't feel certain music just > because of race, color, or > creed??? I may not have lived Curtis Mayfield's > life, and neither did > anyone else on this planet, but I can ***FEEL*** his > music... I can feel > what he's talking about, what he's expressing > through his music, and his > voice... The same with Marvin Gaye or Chic, it's > the beauty of the human > ability to empathize... I would never tell Alan > Oldham that because he's > not white he can't appreciate My Bloody Valentine or > Shoegazer music (which > he loves and respects), or tell Jeff Mills he > couldn't do Final Cut because > industrial was a white thing... This is because I > refuse to lump sentient > human entities into catagories!!! Music has no > color... It's like a white > guy getting pissed that Carl Craig remixed 'Moskow > Diskow' or 'Problemes De > Amore' because they were "white musics", or to say > that giorgio moroder had > no soul..... Pretty Rediculous Right??? What was > techno?? Who and who > stuck in an elevator with a drum machine??? I think > you see where I'm > going.... It seems sometimes that for a group of > people who spend alot of > time trying to hide their identities or remain > 'underground' once it comes > to race it seems everyone's talking, and it's not > about all their > influences.... > > The truth is when it comes to the ***ART*** of > making music from the soul, > every soul speaks an individual language and who is > anyone to interpret that > message for anyone???? Or to tell anyone what they > can or can't feel??? > That's just irrational judgementalism..... Let's > just get back to talking > about the music we love and not who can and can't > love and feel it..... > > My 2 cents... > > - sb > One Ear to the Ground Communications > http://www.totheground.com (Coming Soon!!) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jongsma, K.J." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <313@hyperreal.org> > Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 5:35 AM > Subject: RE: [313] Good artist steals? > > > > > > > > > one of my fav music quotes is.... > > > > > > "Sad in the 20th century, in the 1990s, we still > have to go > > > thru the same bullshit > > > route that other artists had to go to get > acceptance. If it > > > wasnt for the independents, > > > if it wasnt for the small little cities, and the > few little > > > ghetto guys trying to make music, > > > it would of never happened. Some of these guys > will never > > > make a dime. Some of > > > these guys will be poor and die alone. But in > the process > > > theve been the true rengrades. > > > And the true rebel always walks alone anyway." > > > > > > which i !think! is Derrick May sampled (from a > tv doc) on E-Z > > > Rollers - "Retro" on Moving Shadow. Though > > > Ive never had this confirmed, could anyone shed > any light on this. > > > > That's Derrick May sampled from the last episode > of 'Dancing in the > Street' > > from the BBC. > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
