It is our carved out niche for making a living in 313...that's why! How can the esoterics of techno music/electronic dance music be separated from whether or not we get to eat or pay our rent that week. Jeeeesh y'all act like the music is a separate being, god-like entity removed from those who ALSO wish to thrive from their efforts. What gives?

Are you all saying we've no right on our own list to discuss or defend what is rightly due us??


From: "Ryan Brogan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'kharris'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
CC: <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [313] Race and Techno (let's talk about it then)
Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 13:09:34 -0400

Of course discrimination exists in the music community. But why have some
brought it to discussion here? To talk about whether it exists or to address
and correct it at any measure necessary? I would love to hear your ideas.
And I would further pose to all of you whether the music is a weapon for
such change, or an opportunity for further capitalization and
discrimination?

Respect,

Ryan

 -----Original Message-----
From:   kharris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent:   Tuesday, April 03, 2001 12:59 PM
To:     [email protected]
Subject:        [313] FWD: RE: [313] FWD: RE: [313] Race and Techno

>===== Original Message From [EMAIL PROTECTED] =====
I think it needs to be understood here that race "matter" because that's
how most were taught growing up. Earlier I said that as children, everyone
was a friend irregardless of race. It's not until later that you are taught
that, for one reason or another, it does matter. When you're not exposed to
such ignorance, race is no longer an issue.

studies on race have shown that beginning even at age 4 kids are making
judgements based on it (will elaborate details on study in private email)



We all act the same, we all do the same bullsh_t, we are all the same. Why
try to make a distinction based on color?


on an individual level _yes_ (more differences among the sexes then between
the sexes etc. etc.) but when you look at it from a sociopolitical
standpoint
as far as groups and who has advantages/disadvantages yes race does
matter..that's all i was saying before..someone had said how he had hung out
w/ all these different kinds of people and how they all got along and
everything was groovy and i had to challenge that..that's all..i find it
_especially_ frustrating in light of recent events here in the US and here
at
umich (i live in ann arbor currently)..affirmative action rollbacks are have
a
_drastic_ effect on african american communities (look at college enrollment
levels in california before and  after the affirmative action laws were
rolled
back)and now we have the umich law school case..i can't even begin to
describe
what a horrible impact this case would have if it doesn't eventually get
turned over..these mindsets _frighten_ me..they _depress__ me and they leave
me _outraged_ when someone tries to assert such naive statements as "skin
color doesn't matter"..and if you grew up around detroit you _know_..you
must
have been downtown at some point when race relations were very tense...

kathleen


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