John - As far as working "as a number" in a large conglomerate or
corporation goes, things like that must be done. I am ever greatful for
the
work that my father and his father did, in that same role, in order to
provide me with a choice. You can't say that the corporations "suck the
life" out of you, because it is truly in the perception. If you let it do
that, then it will. If you hold strong, and do your job, and follow the
rules, you will benifit. The importance, is (again) to not compromise your
intent for that of the corporation.
---> Dennis, I know you have done pretty good so far what jobs are
concerned, but I don't think you can really judge on what really can go down
unless you have experienced it firsthand. The thing they did to me at my
first job in the bank was so horrible that I would go to court over it now.
Unfortunately it was my first job and I had no experience whatsoever. I did
my job well, but was exploited and if that weren't enough I got f***ed even
worse after a bit more than a month at work. My first boss had my driving
around the city to post his publicity. I had to do this with my own car
after working hours. He put in the stamps it would normally take for those
things to get posted as expenses. He threatened me to let go of my vacation
period. He had me cleaning the floor after closing hours etc. And then some
more really bad stuff happened to me resulting in being unemployed for more
than a week while actually being at work, resulting in having to switch to
another office, resulting in a reduced paycheck, resulting in a forced
course of insurances, resulting in shame, disbelief and a world crushing
down on a guy who only had worked for about a month. My first boss and the
one from the other office had figured out this whole scheme even before
employing me. I was heading towards a major depression when I saw the chance
to get out. I did in a flash.
Yes, it is true that you have to be strong and defend yourself. NOW I have
enough strength to do that, but when it's your first job and they make no
secret of it they will sack you if you don't comply to their sick plans you
have little or no choice. I feel you speak too much for a group that has
enough experience to get through situations like that. I'm also thinking
about those who get thrown into this like the Christians were thrown for the
lions in Roman times. There are a lot of lessons to be learned out there and
I'm still learning every day. Agreed, the things I just told here are pretty
extreme examples, but they do happen, trust me, I was there. The people who
did this to me didn't care about me at all. When I told them that I did some
interviews and such my first boss asked: 'Yeah, so what? How much money does
it get you?' It still makes my stomach turn to think about that pig, but I
decided not to waste more energy on that breed of humans.
Sorry for telling my life here ;-) and I hate to put everything in
black&white like this, but I feel there are some major issues out there that
can't be ignored. To finally get back to the music and the worries about
coorporates giving people the wrong idea: the same group of experienced
people will see through a lot of their schemes, but what about those who
don't have a lot of means of informing themselves and of gaining some
experience for themselves?
And no, I didn't become a coorporate hater thanks to my banking experience.
It only told me to watch out for people who are so obsessed with money they
run over people like nothing. No man should be allowed to do this to his
fellow man!
John
Sorry for the winded reply. I feel this topic is slowly shifting
off-topic,
and would encourage any replies from now on to be sent privately.
Cheers.
Dennis Donohue
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