On Wed, 25 Jul 2001 15:54:18 -0400 David Bitterman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I think the message was aimed more towards the POP headliners such as Moby, >Oakenfold, Underworld, etc.., NOT at their more underground stage partners.
Do you honestly believe that when Underworld made 'Cowgirl' and 'Dubnobasswithmyheadman' that they were aiming to becoming a pop-band? I don't think so, they were just trying to bring there version of the music we all know and love: techno. The way they evolved was not the way I liked, so I just stopped buying their records, not because they lost 'underground-credibility', but just because I didn't dig what they made. > >Point being if I flip through the MAJOR FM radio stations I may pass that >shitty Moby track on a POP station. I'm not going to catch "slak" or >"Elektrostatik" EVER on those same stations. True, just because major FM stations cater the majority of the audience which would rather hear Moby than Elektrostatic, not because they do not want to support the underground, but just because they just don't dig the music and rather hear things they know. > >Needless to say, I meet these dumb azz f*ckin promoters from time to time >and consider them mostly a disease. They have no concept whatsoever. They >are just trying to make a buck and be cool at the same time. Throw a bunch >of names on a flyer, add whatever local talent is pandering to you, hire a >bunch of stupid light systems, and voila. Instant success party. Sorry to burst your underground bubble, but when a promoter asks Derrick May and Jeff Mills for his party he too is trying to make a buck by putting a bunch of names on a flyer. He just chose a smaller market which is much easier to target and is almost surely a success. >Personally >I'd rather shoot myself in the foot than attempt to throw a party of that >caliber. Well, why don't you get behind the screen and try to throw a different party then? Don't get me wrong on the previous paragraphs, I do agree with you to a great extent concerning the big events having no concept and only out to make money, but that goes for pop as well as techno as any other musical form. I myself have been throwing parties since 1993, and continue to do so to this very day with just one thing in mind: fun and music. I haven't gotten a penny out of it, but the memories and thank you's of my friends have made up for that in huge fashion. But I do not claim to be underground, I'm just bringing the music I like to whoever wants to hear it. So stop complaining and just do it! > >It was in a recent Autechre interview that they discussed art without a >dissident edge, basically saying that without that propulsion away from the >establishment or from compromise the art isn't really communicating anything >revolutionary or otherwise. Does art really need to be revolutionary? I don't find Jeff Mills' 'Every Dog' revolutionary in the least, but for me it is well and truly art. Is it dissident? Not at all IMO, but it's just good music to my ears, and that's all that matters. > >I think these people (wack promoters) should go get a job at a burger joint >and contribute more to society. I won't tell you what I REALLY think they >should go do... I do believe that organizing a concert for 10000 people and making their day is a bit more contribution to society than serving burgers and being attacked by antiglobalist-movements, but that's just my opinion. Back to you! RD > >D(bit) > > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Interested in Turkey? Visit http://www.turkey.com! --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
