I'd say that Jamacians did have a major influence, not just with dub though. Look at turntablism and New York's hip-hop/electro scene, in particular one DJ Kool Herc (born in Kingston, Jamaica). He brought in the idea of sampling and breakbeats. Without him might hardcore and drum & bass never been realized? Techno is like a dandelion...the roots go deep, just pull on them and see if you get the whole thing. That's my new motto by the way.;)

MEK


From: "Mike Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [email protected]
Subject: RE: [313] Is Prince the root of all Techno?
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 05:50:17 -0400

It really does not apply in this situation. we are talking Detroit 85-91,
and it doesnt show in the music. The roots of that stuff is
Kraftwerk/Prince/Italio/New Wave/Electro.

Yeah, you cannot deny the influence the Jamaicans had in general on music,
but their music did not become a major influence on Techno until like 92-93, and then primarily in Europe. Jamaica by way of Europe definitely influenced
Detroit, but not until after the first wave had already run its course.

When is BMG going to throw down a 5 page dance music essay and school us
like it was 96 again?

Take care,
mt


i think the early dub pioneers such as lee perry, king tubby, augustus
pablo
deserve a mention and would be closer to techno than prince/hendrix/wonder.

these guys were using basic studio technology with advanced mixing ideas.
adding echo and reverb effects to create some mind blowing soundscapes
all usually recorded innovatley on 4-track tape/desk.

then the early techno ppl were also doing a similar thing using old drum
machines and sythns and bedroom studios in a new way. both used
the mixing desk as an instrument.

the similarities are all there to this day in the techno of many artists,
the basic
channel stuff is in a way revisting the dub of old.

> -----Original Message-----
> From:      laura gavoor [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent:      Wednesday, August 22, 2001 6:39 PM
> To:        [email protected]
> Subject:   Re: [313] Is Prince the root of all Techno?
>
> I think if you were to ask some of the source innovators, both American
and
> Euro alike, Jimi Hendrix's name would arise more often than Prince's.
While
> Prince was a huge influence, Jimi built the world's most innovative
> recording studio, Electric Ladyland Studios, in 1968 (I think) and up
until
> very recently...it remained one of THE most innovative recording studios > because of his obsession with recording and performing technology as THE
> means to get down on tape the sounds he had in his head.
>
> Secondarily and perhaps without most artists even realizing this fact
would
> be Stevie Wonder.  His obsession with electronic keyboards evolved into
the
> very first 'do everything yourself' recording studio back in the 70's.
I
> recall Stevie talking about how and why he records most every track in a
> song he's composing all by himself.  Pretty much the same reason as
Jimi's
> that he knew what sound(s) he wanted and was often frustrated in trying
to
> communicate it to an engineer or musician in order to obtain it.
>
> He felt that with the age of the synthesizer a songwriter/composer had
the
> ability to personalize their music and sound unlike anything that had
come
> before...even though the same notes in a scale were present...they had
never
> before sound like THAT. Moreover, the personal studio he developed back
> then gave him the luxury of recording the moment he was inspired to do
> so...at any hour of the day.
>
> Stevie, like Jimi, innovated a lot of gear to suit his needs, and
because he
> was Stevie Wonder, a living genius, the keyboard companies bent over
> backwards to accommodate him.
>
> Don't forget that "Songs in the Key of Life" is considered by artists
and
> industry alike to be one of the most brilliant pieces of popular music
ever
> put out in one project.  If VH-1 ever re-runs that (dunno the name of
it)
> special one hour program just about that particular album...I highly
> recommend its viewing.  The musicians interviewed, from Miles Davis to
Mick
> Jagger, were awed by the quality of the sound on that LP and explain in
far
> greater detail why it marked a turning point in recording history.
>
> THEN came George Clinton....THEN came Prince.
>
> humbly offered......
>
>
> >From: "Mike Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: [email protected]
> >Subject: [313] Is Prince the root of all Techno?
> >Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 20:34:12 -0400
> >
> >Well?
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