In a message dated 1/29/02 11:51:54 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << cac> please elaborate more on what you mean by "futuristic" as I found P-Funk very cac> futuristic, it is very conceptual in its take on Black American identity, cac> spaceships, re-worked nursery rhymes etc. And the music is the soundtrack to cac> those ideas.
I think P-Funk was certainly progressive . . . but when I say "futurism", I suppose I mean it in a more sci-fi context. Clinton's take on things is . . . hmmm . . . more cartooned than what I think techno is about. Funk is bop guns and atomic dogs, whereas techno seems to think more seriously about a real tomorrow. cac> Let us not forget Derrick May's famous quote that Detroit Techno is "George cac> Clinton and Kraftwerk meeting in an elevator." Right right, but neither are techno. You take Parliament's funk and Kraftwerk's futurism and then stir . . . May was saying that neither sound was techno all by itself. Anyhow, musical definitions fail as often as artistic ones too . . . I was only outlining a way to describe techno, and had no intention of trying to corral it into a verbal mold. ------------- Brian "balistic" Prince http://www.bprince.com - art and techno ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Received: from rly-yd01.mx.aol.com (rly-yd01.mail.aol.com [172.18.150.1]) by air-yd04.mail.aol.com (v83.35) with ESMTP id MAILINYD48-0129115154; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 11:51:54 -0500 Received: from oc4.propagation.net ([216.221.191.209]) by rly-yd01.mx.aol.com (v82.22) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYD12-0129115127; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 11:51:27 -0500 Received: from brian2k (dp-gw.customer.csolutions.net [216.190.207.242]) by oc4.propagation.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA03910; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 10:51:22 -0600 Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 09:51:30 -0700 From: "Brian 'balistic' Prince" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.51) Business Reply-To: "Brian 'balistic' Prince" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [email protected] Subject: Re[2]: [313] educating the kiddies In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >> when I think of songs like "Chocolate City" or the concepts behind Motor Booty Affair I read very serious socio-political commentary inside of them. Yes on the surface there is humor, spoof and the psychedelic cartoon work of Pedro Bell to make the music appealing, entertaining and commericially available. However, "Chocolate City" is a critique of American racial divisions and the slang term for Washington D.C. where the white house stands in the midst of a segregated city. The Motor Booty Affair is a take on the Atlantis myth of underwater dwellers. It can be read as one take on the Middle Passage........... You mention Atomic Dogs and bop guns.....well I saw the suited-up CLinton on the cover of the Funkentelecky (sp) LP as a tight-butt middle class person aspiring to certain kinds of upper class sensibilities shot-down literally by bop gun wielding Sir Nose who is actually his alter ego. Futurism is tied to the machine as you call it because machines are supposed to make better futures. P-Funk argues for a new free future mediated by Funk music to make us all dance and their machines of choice are their band. Listen to Bernie Worrell or Eddie Hazel or even look at some of their album covers and you will find them to be quite futuristic. Regarding May's quote, no he might not have been saying that P-Funk is techno and it is not but the elements are clearly there.........and some techno is electro-funk. Mike Banks has talked about this before. Listen to " High Tide" from the Dreciya LP. All of it is in the same family. Five --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
