Actually you touched on something that disturbed me greatly, the difference in crowds between Demf 1 & 2. It was the sight of such a diverse crowd after the first Demf, all enjoying themselves and digging on the music, that made it really seem like a landmark to me. That diversity seemed to be lost at the second Demf, and I'm curious as to why this was the case? Anyone have any thoughts on this?

In general, I thought that there was a preponderence of ravers at the last festival who didn't necessarily know what they had even come to see. Now it seems to me that although raves will probably exist for quite a while, the rave scene is pretty dead in Michigan (finally? lol). I'm sure that most of us won't feel too disturbed by this, but there could be a potential problem, which is that raves have indeed provided much needed bookings and venues at times when there were no other outlets for techno. What I'm concerned about is that there will be nothing new to fill the role that raves may have played in the past. And if the DEMF thinks that it is going to attract ravers with it's godawful robot poster, as opposed to pursuing the kind of diversity of the first year, well that clearly seems to be a dead end. The worst thing that could happen is that curious locals won't attend because they percieve it to simply be some kind of "rave" thing.

I also do feel that the cosmopolitan edge that Carl Craig brought is missing, and that may also have some serious consequences--I'd personally hope that this festival would seek to exist on an international level, something that one would fly to from Europe to attend with no second thoughts.

On the other hand, thank God for the afterparties which more and more look like they will become the real focus. However, I think that for this to remain true in the future, it is important that the festival itself remain strong. Anyway, don't take these thoughts too seriously I am just trying to make sense of what seems to be a slightly messy situation at this point. /dave

Paul Virilio:
"Resistance is always possible! But we must engage in resistance first of all by developing the idea of a technological culture. However, at the present time, this idea is grossly underdeveloped. For example, we have developed an artistic and a literary culture. Nevertheless, the ideals of technological culture remain underdeveloped and therefore outside of popular culture and the practical ideals of democracy. This is also why society as a whole has no control over technological developments. And this is one of the gravest threats to democracy in the near future. "


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