oh- i COMPLETELY agree that there should be other artists photos on the
site.

i found it thoroughly pathetic that PCM used photos of artist who have
publicly dismissed them (Hawtin and May)

but i sensed this thread going into another black/white debate, which i
don't think anyone is in the mood for right now.

so i felt it pertinent to present other reasons why Hawtin is Hawtin :)


On Mon, 29 Apr 2002, neon tse tse wrote:

> that?s all fine with me,
>
> though I couldn?t flip as you do bout certain "coca cola"-aspects -
>
> still the question was: "why is he the MORE popular" ?
>
> many of the things you mentioned would fit
>
> to many different individual Detroit artists -
>
> the way you pronounced it also gives me the impression
>
> as if you think Mr Hawtin is the one doing it "better" -
>
> don?t want to go on with this -
>
> and no question: respect for Mr Hawtins work
>
> but I would prefer to see some more people (from Detroit)
>
> representing on the pictures too -
>
> (imagining about a million young people visiting the page)
>
> out
>
> m
> planetz2002
>
>
>
>
>
> > 1. Richie Hawtin is more popular because he's a marketing genius.
> >
> > 2. The Plastikman logo is an icon. Just like Coca-Cola logo.
> >
> > 3. He ran an extremely successful recordlabel (+8) that didn't limit
> > itself to strictly Detroit, therefore it had more sucess outside of Detroit.
> >
> > 4. Spaztik is perhaps the most versitile track of all-time. It works with
> > house, techno, booty... Everyone plays it, everyone loves it.
> >
> > 5. Even today, Rich aligns himself with exciting new technologies that are
> > not only cutting edge, but great for filling column inches in magazines.
> >
> > 6. Plus, he is definately in the top 10 DJ/producers in the world when it
> > comes to quality records and amazing sets.
> >
> > But since quality in music is more or les subjective and I have no desire
> > to argue with anyone who believes that Richie is not a good artist, please
> > refer back to points 1-5 to answer the question 'why is hawtin more
> > popular?'
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 29 Apr 2002, neon tse tse wrote:
> >
> >> Yes, Richie Hatwin is a serious good artist,
> >>
> >> but why is he the "far more popular" one ?
> >>
> >> because he?s "the best" ?
> >>
> >> do you believe in "the best" ?
> >>
> >> is it possible he?s "far more popular",
> >>
> >> because he also is on so many photos, jpgs, maybe ?
> >>
> >> so again we need to enter the question:
> >>
> >> why is he on so many photos ?
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> 5 out of the 6 pics of dj's on the website are of richie
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> whitewashing at it's finest
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> *angry beyond measure*
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> if it was 5 different white artists, then maybe i can understand.  But if
> >>> all five are of Richie, then i don't think this is whitewashing in the
> >>> SLIGHTEST.  Say what you want, but richie is a far more popular and well
> >>> recognized artist (please, don't just say because he's white), and most
> >>> likely *that* is why so many of those pictures are of him.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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