oh right sorry :) I see what you mean.

yes very true on the mistakes bit, so many say wowo what a set loved it I
could.nt
hear any mistakes, were I and you know there were  a few!! funny that isn't
it..

oh well we will see what happens on Saturday and how many say I am crap :) 

oh but your doing a live set, well hats off to you mate!



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Oh, I wasn't referring specifically to Claude Young in those two "main
questions" below - instead I was referring to a hypothetical, generic, new
British DJ on the scene.

I'd rather here Claude Young or Jeff Mills as well, and am fine with hearing
the odd mistake, but then again that could be because me and you are both
DJs, and so we're interested in the skills whether drunk or not... it's just
that the average UK clubgoer, who isn't a DJ, probably wouldn't notice. Most
people who I speak to after doing a set will say "it was brilliant - I
couldn't even notice you mixing between tracks!" while for me it's the
opposite - I like to hear what a DJ is actually doing, and a pro-tools style
mix will generally bore me stiff...

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ian Cheshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 16 May 2002 17:00
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [313] Baby Ford / Zip
> 
> 
> I agree with you but
> 
> The main questions seem to be, i) does he choose
> good tracks?, and ii) can he play for two straight hours with no major
> f*ckups?
> 
> Well he does double up records, and do tricks..
> 
> i would rather here someone like Claude Young or Jeff, Beyer 
> etc where they
> try hard and yeah a couple of 
> mistakes will be in there but at least they are trying 
> instead of a seamless
> CD mix that sounds like a pro tool mix..
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Sent: 16 May 2002 16:55
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [313] Baby Ford / Zip
> 
> 
> I think there actually is some truth to this, and it's not 
> necessarily a bad
> reflection on European DJs. The most plausible theory I've 
> heard is that
> it's to do with the higher age limit for buying alcohol in America.
> Americans from 18-21, when they go out to a club, can't 
> (legally) drink, and
> so to them it's more of a directly musical experience - they 
> want a DJ to
> actually keep them interested throughout the night, and are 
> less fussed
> about being able to dance, so a culture has evolved whereby 
> American DJs
> with good track selection but no deck skills often don't go 
> down well with
> the 18-21 club audience, which is sober enough to pay 
> attention to what's
> going on. In Europe, the younger audience is more likely to 
> be drunk, and
> therefore less likely to notice an unoriginal or even 
> slightly bad mix -
> they want to dance, not watch DJs perform.
> 
> If any evidence could be found backing up this theory, it 
> might involve
> looking at the more 'debauched' scenes in US dance music 
> history, such as
> the Loft and the Paradise Garage, where copious amounts of 
> drugs and drink
> led to a culture where crowds revered DJs whose mixing skills 
> were actually
> pretty crappy. I've seen certain Detroit bass DJs, with 
> excellent skills,
> lose the crowd here really badly because people don't really 
> want to watch
> some insane skills, and find it hard to keep the rhythm with 
> a DJ who's
> constantly doing tricks and never letting a record run for a while.
> 
> In the sphere of techno, particularly, the whole notion of a 
> techno DJ doing
> deck tricks has always been a slight novelty - I remember 
> seeing Claude
> Young in London about eight years ago, and people were 
> shocked into silence
> even by backspins, let alone beat-juggling or crab 
> scratching! I loved it
> myself... but there just isn't the call for hotshot deck 
> tricks in the DJ
> trade over here, really. The main questions seem to be, i) 
> does he choose
> good tracks?, and ii) can he play for two straight hours with no major
> f*ckups?
> 
> Brendan
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 16 May 2002 16:40
> > 
> > I think fans of Detroit techno get spoiled by the incredible skills
> >  Detroit DJs have. Its something far more important to 
> > Detroit DJ culture
> >  than European DJ culture (yes, there are a lot of exceptions)
> > 
> > uh...that why i said there are a lot of exceptions.
> > 
> > It's still one of the lamest comments I've ever seen posted 
> > on 313. What is this theory based on ?
> 
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