200 years ago those childs in china could have better way of life.
it was before the opuiom war, china was a decaying empire, even a poor man
(if he passed the tests)
had the chance to be "clerk" - like a noble man in china, the empire was
ruled by a nice system (that was sort-of made by KONG-FU-SI). they didn`t
work in a large factory doing footballs all day.
the worse thing they could do was to be farmers or soemthing like, making
food or some easy work.
and yes some alot of opium
i don`t think u know too many facts about what was happening and what is
happedning now
READ MORE history.. than answer
kind regards
Yair.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jayson B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 8:38 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [313] submerge.panel- technology OT?


Ask those little china kids if two hundred years ago they would have been in

the same position, or worse.  I'm saying in general terms, that life HAS 
improved, and that certain aspects of it really aren't going to change, 
because THEY HAVE NEVER CHANGED.


>From: Yair Etziony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: RE: [313] submerge.panel- technology OT?
>Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 21:23:23 +0200
>
>well, i am sorry to say that life now is better than it was lets say 200
>years ago.
>thats what some people would like you to think.
>all things r changing and nothing is really changing. good and bad r un
>relevant critiras , which r too
>relative, too have a good answer do we REALLY live better?
>i think that 200 years ago people killed other people and that never
>changed.
>i know 200 years ago people uprest other people that didn`t change.
>did technology really changed that? ask those little boys who work for nike
>in china they would answer you
>with something else.
>the people with power would like u to think u r doing so good life has 
>never
>been so good? but is this really true?
>give it some real thinking, and than answer.
>
>kind regards. Yair/micropeople/telaviv
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Jayson B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 8:20 PM
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: [313] submerge.panel
>
>
>technology hasn't changed dick.  People have simply NEVER been equal.  the
>haves vs the have-nots has always been there, and in many cases to a worse
>degree than it is now.  slavery?  caste systems?  serfs?  I'm sure someone
>would argue that we're all slaves now to corporations, but life in general
>for the entire world is better now than it was even 200 years ago, and i 
>can
>
>only see it continuing to get better BECAUSE of technology.
>
>
>that and i want the new nord lead like i'm in heat ;-)
>
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