i see this maybe in another way, i was thinking alot i past few months about techno, because of the scene in my town and cities around me. there is bunch of partys, all hard techno, pounding and trashing sound systems. so i asked my self, am i still for it, do i realy want to atend partys with bass kicking my ass. and was a little dissapointed. but now i look in another way, techno is on a scene for how long now, 20 years, big boom in last 10 years. and you had critical mass of producers, that had unexplored teritory with a lot of influences, from music to socity. today you have world wide producers, and much of them are influenced with music from big boom. maybe we are missing other teritorys to explore and we are to much focused on teritory that first wave of producers explored. i dont think techno is in critical moment, i think kids that ar now 12, 13 years old, with all this new technology coming with a speed of light into our lifes, will find new moments in music. new ways to express them selfs. and for ourselfs, just to keep open minded and not to see all in black, techno was allways sound of the future, so we just have to look forward...
berislav ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phonopsia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "313" <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2002 11:07 AM Subject: [313] Is Techno in a Critical Moment? > I think this question has to be firmly situated within Sean Deason's > question about the validity of making old-school techno today. I think that > stuff is fine, good, and generally the pleasurable techno I find to listen > to. Stuff like you find on Digital Soul, Delsin, Puzzlebox, UR, Fabrice > Lig's output, etc seems like great f*ckin' music to me, but that seems like > a scarce quantity to sustain a movement (you'll hopefully see this is the > crux of my point). To be overly clear, I am not complaining about that music > at all - I f*cking love it. Meanwhile, I know there's other great stuff, but > I feel like there's an *essential* movement missing from the techno world > right now. I don't know what it is or might be, and I don't know how one > might fill that void. I am completely immersed in the broken beat sound > these days, and I feel like that's more of a house music at the end of the > day than techno, unless you're looking at the Nubian Mindz end of things. > Without digging into all those particulars, I think it's safe to say that's > a distinct movement from "techno". I like the Clicks 'n Cuts stuff a lot for > what it is, but it feels momentary. I love hard techno, but I don't hear > anyone exploring much new territory other perhaps Jacek Sienkewicz, who's > musicality cannot be suppressed, although his best moments remind me of Hood > in a new way. > > I guess what I'm getting at is that I feel like as all the new ideas become > instantly codified it seems like techno is impossible today in the Millsian > "tomorrow" sense. If someone takes refuge in more traditional songwriting, > it's destined to veer towards house, classic electro or retrotechno, as we > see with Metro Area, Delsin and the broken beat stuff. If there are genuine > breakthroughs, a new wing of producers are waiting to stake their claim as > we see today with the Akufen's of the world. I can't disclaim this enough. I > really like almost all of this music, and I'm pleased with the high output > of great music today. But my question is where can techno go from here > without becoming purely experimental or instantly segmented? I ask this as a > producer as much as a DJ. I feel like techno has always occupied a void > between ultimate-soul and experimentation, and now its only route is to fill > in those blanks more and more as experimental producers (think: Monolake or > Vladislav Delay) pave technical territory without losing their grasp on the > music. One of the most futuristic efforts I've ever heard is Monolake's > "Tangent". I feel like this record still outpaces the futurism of most of > today's techno. So to my question: is techno left to integrate these > breakthroughs and bathe them with soul a la Fabrice Lig? Is this the proper > domain of techno, rather than the futuristic banner we normally pin on it? > Is techno today less linked to technology and innovation than it is to its > past? I feel like the answer must be "yes", and I would love to hear your > thoughts on the matter (clarifying again that I really don't give a sh*t > what you call the best music, but I'm left feeling like what we all knew was > techno and the "music of the future" is now occupying a different > significance than it originally had). > > Tristan > ------------------- > http://www.mp313.com <- Music > http://www.metrotechno.net <- DC techno + more > http://www.metatrackstudios.com <- DC DJ/Production studios > http://phonopsia.tripod.com <- Hub > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <- email > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
