On Thu, 10 Oct 2002, Jason wrote:

> Most certainly Sharivari is the first techno record from detroit.  It
> preceded Alleys of your Mind by Cybotron by at least six months in release.
>
> Some techno heads would argue that kraftwerk was the first to produce
> techno, but from detroit it is A Number of Names with Sharivari.

this appears to be based on the first definition.  i guess it really
depends on how deep you want to go theoretically.  there's a problem of
prolepsis--projecting the future onto the past.  in this case, we don't
have any substantial proof that the creators of shari vari either sought
out to create a new genre, or knew that they DID create a new genre, much
less come up with the name that we're placing on it (techno) in hindsight.
it's more like we're taking shari vari or alleys of your mind and saying
that it is techno because:

1.  it comes from detroit
2.  it sounds like later stuff that we call techno
3.  some of the later stuff comes from the same artists

if we want to just kick it around like this, then i really don't see why
we'd just focus on detroit.  there's no inherent reason for it if we're
not going to some seminal text (verbal or written) that LITERALLY maps the
term "techno" onto the music.

on "techno" as a term originating in the seventies:

this is an excellent point.  i guess the question i'd have is, when did
the term "stick?" Are there people walking around referring to techno that
have the seventies stuff in their heads rather than either the detroit
stuff or the european stuff that comes out in the nineties?


peace
lks

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