Actually - Ron was just talking about one of these instances, and it was for
Deepchord.  It was not to sound "like Jeff Mills", but rather to give it
more noise in the background.

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From: Andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 12:54 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Fw: (313) Suburban Knight




 hear hear - too much pro tools, over-production, or over-mastering.
 That's why I keep buying Detroit, cause the producers remember to keep the
 grime in there. I heard stories about people asking Ron Murphy to blend in
 tape noise from a seperate channel so it can ''sound like Jeff Mills'' -
how
lame is that?


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> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "James Bucknell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: "313 Detroit" <[email protected]>; "Cyclone Wehner"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 3:14 AM
> Subject: Re: (313) Suburban Knight
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> Gotta agree with you both - it's getting hard to find new releases that
> don't sound super slick - techno, house, what have you. Especially
anything
> tagged tech-house. Blech. I like to hear some intrinsic errors in the
music
> - it makes it sound like someone is actually behind the work. There are
> countless tunes out there that sound so "professional" yet they lack any
> sense of a heartbeat. Take just about anything off the Wiggle label, for
> example. Everything is too clean and smooth - they compensate with a
"phat"
> bassline but the real funk is missing. Give me some ruff cut samples ala
> Todd Edwards/Todd Terry any old day.
>
> MEK
>
>
>
>
>                       James Bucknell
>                       <[EMAIL PROTECTED]        To:       Cyclone Wehner
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 313 Detroit <[email protected]>
>                       com.au>                  cc:
>                                                Subject:  Re: (313)
Suburban
> Knight
>                       02/03/03 11:20 PM
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>
> i've always loved house and techno for their minimalism--a few bits of
> roland equipment and a four track reel to reel.
>
>
> i find most contemporary tracks to be as overproduced as any bit of prog.
> house/trance. it's a challenge to spend any money when i go record
> shopping.
>
> instead, i've taken to re-editing older tracks and saving my money for
> final
> scratch.
> james
>
>
> >
> >> Wibo Lammert:
> >>> As to the Mastering: Those first 2 transmats of his sounds like sh*t.
> That
> >>> Dark Energy doublepack sounds a whole lot better.
> >>
> >> Gotta disagree wth u for the first time old bean (let's not make a
habit
> of
> >> this ;-) - My opinion is that 'Art of Stalking' along with many other
> >> seminal Detroit techno (which implies a particular period) benefitted,
> >> purposefully or not, from the ironic lack of the latest technology at
> all
> >> points of the production process. Those trax sound grimy, glitchy,
> scratchy
> >> and minimal, sometimes even the sequencing is a bit suspect. But
somehow
> (I
> >> admit, I'm not sure how) often, all those elements came together to
form
> an
> >> unmistable kind of human touch which proved there really was a ghost in
> the
> >> machine (called soul.)
> >> k
> >
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