i was in holland for a festival last week, and was treated very kindly by the dutch ppl i met, they are very anti-bush more than they are anti-american.

ppl there referred to the US as "the empire", and when we landed @ detroit en route to cleveland, it really seemed like the opening scene out of the first star wars...ppl were getting up and getting their luggage, when an announcement came out that US customs agents had entered the plane...they were armed and had a german shepard, and removed a few middle eastern men, who were presumably on some kind of country threat list. one was sitting two chairs down from me...very scary and most of the plane, who were foreingers were very anxious as well.

GREG MALCOLM // TWINE // HTTP://TWINESOUND.COM





From: "Odeluga, Ken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Kent williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
CC: 313 list <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: (313) American Artists overseas
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 15:42:09 +0100

Hey,

*I've* been attacked by skinheads - in East Germany! (At least they
attempted to attack me!)

The good thing about skinheads is that they effectively don't discriminate!
They hate everybody who disagrees with them (which is virtually everybody!)

Ken

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Kent williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 3:33 PM
>To: Odeluga, Ken
>Cc: 313 list
>Subject: (313) American Artists overseas
>
>
>I hope you're right, that American artists are still getting booked.
>A good friend of mine who isn't a techno artist was rather frightened
>on his last tour in Germany, where he was harrassed by skin heads and
>yelled at for being Americans elsewhere.
>
>Here's hoping, all evidence to the contrary, that we're not entering a new
>dark age.
>
>On Wed, 9 Apr 2003, Odeluga, Ken wrote:
>> >American artists are less welcome
>> >in Europe given the current troubles.
>>
>> Current US/European political agreements aside, I can't see how
>this would
>> contribute to US artists of any kind being overlooked for bookings here.
>>
>> In 'big business' (the ugly specter of which I raise, just for
>the sake of a
>> comparison and an example) long-term well-known relationships
>are as normal
>> with no question of wider considerations altering that.
>>
>> The only thing that's hurting everybody (inlcuding all types of music) is
>> the global economic slowdown.
>>
>


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