Thx. The background to what I was saying was meant to be contemporaneous,
i.e. *now*, although I didn't make this explicit (and I should have).
k
Dan Sicko:
>I could be wrong, but I thought from the context that Ken meant "these
>days" ....
>
>?
>
>On Friday, April 11, 2003, at 04:21 PM, Matthew MacQueen wrote:
>
>>
>>> It has to be said on the whole also that America is not
>>> the major place for underground movements of any kind.
>>> Avant-garde music ('cause that's what we're talking
>>> about) included.
>>
>> WHAT !?!? :) The Birth of Jazz wasn't an Avant-garde movement in
>> America? In the 50s and 60s in the Bebop era it was not widely
>> accepted by the general public either, it was considered threatening
>> and frightening to most Americans. I consider that an underground
>> movement.
>>
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