derrick played killabite the last few times i saw him (to great effect) so i dont think he means dj tools per say

On Tuesday, May 20, 2003, at 02:33  PM, spw wrote:

First of all the original quote was not "unfinished tracks" that's someone
else's
interpretation.
A finished track is what sounds complete to you, whether it be DJ Tools
oriented music, minimalism, or more traditional song structure music.

on 5/20/03 9:19 AM, Odeluga, Ken at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

also could it be that many producers release "infinished tracks" so that
the idea can be completed by the dj? justa  thought.

I thought exactly the same thing Robin, although I was a bit wary abt going up against the wisdom of May and Atkins - that's not meant ironically at all. I respect them and their opinions 100%, although I might disagree.

That point is a difficult one. A bit of a dilemma:

On the one hand part of the attraction of the music we're into *is* it's very 'imperfection' on any number of fronts, on sound quality; structurally;
production. Imperfections whether intentional or unintentional can add
almost a magical quality to a piece of music *heard in the right context*. The same could especially be said (imho) about Derrick May's own work - I mean basically, during the era in which he did his only non-collaborative work (no offence intended in that, it's just a fact that it was a while ago)
electronic music sounded what could be called 'unfinished' or put more
politely, 'minimal'.

And then there is Robin's point about the sketchiness of some productions being quite necessary if the music is going to be programmed with other
tracks ...

However, I can definitely see the point about some things being quite
patently thrown together (or seeming to be) and that point where minimal becomes just downright lazy, unimaginative, or dare I say it - a display of
a *lack* of talent rather than display of talent.

It would be helpful though to know what tracks May had in mind when he made that statement (but of course we never will), 'cause in the last 6 months I've heard a great deal of quality music coming from Detroit and coming from everywhere. I've heard some mediocre house, techno, broken beat, etc etc too, but not as much good stuff - which you do have to seek out if you want to overwhelm what would seem like a stream (but not a deluge) of cack - that being a crucial point! Nothing different in that today compared to ten years
ago. (mho.)

k




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