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From: "J. T." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>what lyrics?? i heard "lovveeee" and some scatting..?? quote?
guess i need 
>to listen again...?

the "if you stand for nothing, youll fall for anything" bit. its
certainly not a straight up vocal track.....

>but i just dont even like his voice or his 
>delivery..syruppy, too smooth not enough real feeling..to my
ears! it's a 
>subtle thing.

perhaps im biased after seeing him live, but trust me, he's got
much real feeling when he performs, and i think also on his records. 

>if its fresh to you then great. 

im not calling it fresh, but its definitely distinctive. i could
pick an amp track out of a lineup easily. its definitely not generic. 

>not generic? well, i have heard thousands 
>and thousands of jazz records. i sell them for a living. so maybe
it's 
>unfortunate but i dont hear anything but limp playing/ideas,
heard it 1000 
>times before kinda stuff, as far as the jazz elements go.

im also pretty unsure why this has to do with jazz. amp played
with george clinton for like a decade. he makes funky music. there
might be some jazziness to it, but he wasnt trying to make a jazz
record. 

>a lot of the jazz on detroit experiment falls flat as well imo!
sorry. i 
>know at least a few people on here who are into jazz agree with me..

the detroit experiment certainly wasnt meant to be a jazz record
either though! obviously the inclusion of jazz players gives it a
good dose of jazzy flavor, but theres also a good dose of hiphop,
techno, and funk in there, which is why its the "detroit
experiment" and not the "detroit jazz record". i love me some
jazz, im certainly not a "purist" of any genre, but i think the DE
lp is really quality, and their performance at movement was
absolutely fantastic. 

>i much prefer russ gabriel's recent stuff. if he hooked up with a
nice r&b 
>vocalist i think it could be in the same area as amp but blow him
out of the 
>water.

i think theyre definitely 2 different fish: russ's stuff is
definitely leaning more towards jazz than amp's stuff is. 

tom 

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