hahaha ok matt one last reply then..

to.  It's funny you use jazz as a reference cause that's the last thing
I would have likened it too.  I like the songwriting.  I would classify
it as 'r&b' or 'soul' before I would think of it as jazz, but wherever

me too!! its just the jazz elements that irritate me the most, followed closely by the too-smooth r&b elements...my comments on the jazziness were really msiunderstood i think...talk good me not do

I also think when you take a mouthful of something and spit it out
immediately (judging from your reaction that seemed to be the case?) You

nahh i've had a lot of other amp stuff in digital for awhile, but just title tracks, thought i'd give a whole record a try...

might have written it off wholesale without looking a little further.  I
like Freakin, reminds me of a cut you'd hear coming out of someone's
trunk at a BBQ in the summer, recalls a Fatback or SOS Band vibe almost.

haha yeah freakin would definitely be my favorite one...not saying much tho..its not that i think any of its so terrible, just does nada for me...and i guess i was just very disappointed after all my friends have been sayin such good stuff and seem to dig it so much..

I like the lyrics to "love and war"... didn't hear any scat myself.

haha did i just have the volume too low?? was i trippin?? i'll definitely have to listen again aghh

The keys playing I find interesting, moreso than the rhythms... the
piano keys in 'love and war' I think are great and moody.  Did you

yuck! too "nice", but this is a very subtle thing to me...he could make another song with similar keys and i'd like them. i still wouldnt think it was much special tho...

listen to the electronic synth parts in "freakin'" ?  Crazy analogue
sounds and squiggles and synth farts, etc. It's just a fresh little
summer jammy jam, I don't see anything generic in it.. the solo is nuts!

nahhh..."generic" is being harsh i guess, but it all does really remind me of other things, and in any case, not doing it for me...i do like this kinda stuff, but not THIS stuff...i'm really not looking for an entirely different approach or anything at all....it's just..so close, but so far..to me...y'know?

has a lot of talent on the keys and I like the sound of his voice myself

definitely very talented, and great voice -- just not for me, and awfully familiar on both counts there, to my ears...seriously, blame it on all the cheesey r&b i listen to. it dominates the radio down here y'know -- if its not country, it's slowjams and r&b. couple that with the fact i sell lame jazz records by the crate...my ears have been tainted :P i like crazier sh*t..more unique if i gotta put it that way but maybe that isnt fair....

The beats I think could be better compared to other elements of his
productions, but we'll see what happens in the future...   Maybe Amp
just needs some $tinkworx beats to liven it up!!

hahaha noooo dont say that!! i was disappointed by the beats because i like them when they start but then...they go nowhere...drop those sticks out for awhile in love&war or something! or drop out everything but the sticks..i love em but damn..i got annoyed after a few measures...

i really did want to like this stuff y'know..i dunno maybe it was all just too built up before i heard it...cant see ever loving it but maybe i should relax my expectations some...

hope i wasnt too hard on ya either andy, probably, sorry man! thanks for trying to open my ears some..

PS - I love Detroit Experiment as one of the "whole greater than the sum
of the parts" thing, each track is a little different and the crazy
influences do come out individually AND collectively (to me).  Midnight
at Twenty Grand!!

yeah, again dont get me wrong -- i actually like this album too, tho at the same time i end up a little disappointed with most songs individually, they bug me at some point...but i really enjoy listening to it and yeah it works really well as a whole..i bought it for both my parents even (they hip y'know :P)

It seems to be the trendy thing now with a lot of techno heads to
dislike where Carl is going on the jazz collective tip and I'm not havin
it... music needs to expand, the detroit sound is way to wide to stay
pegged in a single genre.  I'm glad people are going for it.

i dont mind the direction a bit! i think it'll get better and better...

PS - Speaking of... Now I gotta go drive to Dusty Groove and pick up the
new Dwele LP:

yeah i saw rolling stone kinda slammed it, 1 or 2 stars or something, but i love their stuff. seeeee? its not that amp isnt my kinda thing, its just something subtle about it that makes..not doing it for me...i might really be digging some future stuff tho...

i mean i call it generic, but so much music is these days, including a lot of music i love...new gangstarr is basically generic primo hiphop, but i dig it...i dont mean to be insulting when i say crap like that...

jt

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