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From: "Cyclone Wehner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>I think there's a perception that Big Boi is the regular homeboy
and Andre
>the flamboyant eccentric, but Big Boi is still pretty out there.
>They're both individuals.
i never really considered big boi to be "regular" or anything, but
his style is certainly more compatible with other hiphop. its like
any other genre of music, sometimes if you go too far outside of
it, it just sounds bad as opposed to sounding "different".
>I love the Andre CD too. I don't think it's try-hard at all, very
>spontaneous in fact.
>The songs are great. That's my view.
>I guess the Common album got the same reaction, but I loved that
too.
i really dont know what to say about that common record. common
used to be a top emcee, now hes on some joker type business. and
you can talk all you want about not trying to appeal to white
media, but common now endorses coca-cola. they werent offering
that circa "i used to love h.e.r.". sad. i found his record to be
nearly as unlistenable as andre 3000's.
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From: "Cyclone Wehner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>That's funny, I actually thought there was a real parallel
between the
>OutKast and Erykah album! That and the Common record, and The
Roots album
>Phrenology too.
>Both the Badu album and the OutKast are departing from what is
expected of
>urban music.
>It's the antithesis of Chingy, et al, who I feel are making very
conformist
>records.
>They're testing their (US) urban audience, Black and white.
>Does anyone really believe they're making albums to please the
white media
i definitely do. the "return of rock" thats been being hyped in
the media since the strokes album a couple years ago seems to have
penetrated hiphop, and mostly in a bad way. like you look at that
cody chestnutt cat. his record was decent, but it was also a
little less a result of the hype as it was part of the cause. the
roots went on to remake and release that track of his "the seed".
common now thinks he's jimi hendrix, which i might agree with him
on if he showed anything resembling his old mic virtuosity.
wearing tiedye shirts doesnt make you hendrix. andre 3000 im not
even sure what tip he's on, but its just bad. really i think i was
the only person in america who hated that last album before this.
as he's become more and more "outrageous", the quality of his
music has suffered. the erykah album was good because it took the
style that shes into and made it atmospheric as opposed to "rock"
sounding. even lenny kravitz's presence doesnt make it any more
rock than her other stuff, which was not at all (lenny can do r+b
pretty damn well when he wants to). even the remake of the NERD
album was garbage IMO. i saw them live recently, and it was mostly
underwhelming. spymob is a weak band, and the original electronic
studio versions of the tracks of that album sounded much more
cutting edge than throwing some distorted guitar licks in does.
>I'd give 'em way more cred than that.
>Regardless if OutKast annoy The Source, good. It's hit an all-
time low with
>Benzino's ridiculous self-promotional schemes, anyway.
wasnt there 2 covers of the most recent source, one with andre and
one with big boi? i didnt read it, but i dont think that the
source was against the album by any means.
>Anyway, everyone maintains it was Erykah who got Andre wearing
those
>clothes. ;)
yeah but he missed the plot. erykah looks good in her slightly
eccentric outfits, andre looks like a turd.
tom
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