very very true Andrew....knowing your records inside out will help you
click much easier than before..

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        Subject: (313) how do you mix
        
        

        On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 23:12:54 +1030,
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        > ok so i am curious to know how you all mix, im not
        into
        > tricks and things i
        > just want a nice smooth mix without endless
        > beatmatching (get on with the
        > tunes i say!)
        >
        > generally when i mix house i tend to bring the next
        > tune in with the bass
        > turned 3/4 of the way down and gradually bring it up
        as
        > i bring the outgoing
        > tune's bass down then i wind down the volume until it
        > is faded out. or ill
        > bring a tune in with the bass almost off then at the
        > appropriate time ill
        > swap the bassline into the new tune (if that makes
        > sense)
        >
        > anyway its getting a bit 'samey' and im looking for
        > some tips
        
        hi, alex; from my experience i've found what is best
        regardless is to know your tunes inside out structure
        wise and use this to your advantage.  know which songs
        have beatless or acapella intros, which have these
        sorts of breaks, which have these sorts of extros.
        which songs fade in, which songs fade out; which sounds
        kick right in with a beat, which soungs end with a
        beat. which songs end cold (ie no fade out) and which
        fade.  then, when you're mixing, instead of thinking in
        terms of tempo and beatmaching, just think in terms of
        "stitching together" a fabric of songs into a whole.
        example; 
        song 1: starts right off with a beat and has no
        breakdowns that are beatless or acapella and it ends
        cold.
        song 2: has an acapella intro and then the beat kicks
        in. it fades.
        
        mixing this way you have a variety of options. you
        could let song 1 play and the second it ends (because
        it ends cold), you could start song 2. you could lay
        the acapella from song 2 over song 1 in bits (ie not
        all at once; "tease" it in) and then switch over
        completely to song 2 (on beat, of course :)) at a time
        that feels right.
        
        when you've got songs with beatless intros and/or
        breaks and/or extros, it becomes even easier because
        you can lay the beatless intro from song 2 over the
        beat of song 1, or start the beat from song 2 during
        the beatless break or extro of song 1, etc.
        
        as you get more confident with this style and know your
        songs even better, your stiching will be even tighter
        and you'll have times when even you don't know which
        bit is playing from which song (when they're playing at
        once) and you'll be creating new pieces of music (the
        "third song").
        
        when i started mixing, (this is extremely funny in
        hindsight, but i was extremely serious about it at the
        time) i was playing everything from public enemy and
        new order and inner city to r.e.m. and u2 and led
        zeppelin.  and i was anal beyond belief (flashback to a
        young andrew: mom: "andrew, how come you never have
        your friends over anymore?" andrew; "because they don't
        put things back in the right place!")  whenever i got a
        new record, i would take out my watch and find the bpm
        of *every single track on the record* (yes, *even* the
        ones that i would never play out!) and write them down
        on a piece of paper in order from slowest tempo to
        highest tempo on that record. i would then file all my
        records (12"s were easier, of course, cos they would
        have less songs to bpm than an album) in terms of the
        lowest starting bpm on that record.  here's the
        punchline: then when i djed (i was doing like a 6 hour
        set on weekends at the university plus gigs here and
        there (back then they were called "mobiles")) i would
        start the night around 8pm with songs at the lowest bpm
        (say 60) and play all the 60bpm songs, then move to 62
        for a while, then 65, etc. later in the night i would
        be up to 120 or so.  (gosh, that must have been
        horribly painful and annoying and repetitive for repeat
        attendees!)  if i would get a request for a song that
        was downtempo and i was playing in the 120 range, i
        would say "i've already played songs in that tempo".
        (yes, i hope you're laughing as you read this.
        thankfully i'm not that anal person anymore, but you've
        got to picture lil' ol' me back then, so damn serious
        about bpms that--get this--if i got a new record, i
        would not play it out--no matter what--until i had
        figured out the bpms for it! crazy, i realize now.)
        anyway, i cured myself of this
        bpming-every-single-song-no-matter-what and
        playing-songs-according-to-bpm-from slowest to
        fastest-all-night a couple of years after i got into
        that phase.  at first i just didn't bother bpming every
        single song, than i stopped filing them by bpm (changed
        to alphabetical), than i got looser and looser with my
        filing system until now, many many years later, i just
        have pre-90s stuff roughly in one area and stuff since
        then in another and the pre-90s is divided loosely up
        into disco/funk, dance, and hip hop and the 90s on
        stuff is loosely divided up into house, techno/electro,
        and everything else rows.  now when i mix i just go by
        feel, if it is close and the mood warrants it, i'll
        beatmatch, but otherwise i'll just stitch the songs
        together in a fashion that makes best sense. speaking
        of sense, hope this long ramble/blather makes sense and
        is possibly of some use to you. take care, alex and all
        the best with the mixing. andrew duke
        
        
        Jason Trenholm was born 31 August 1969 and died
        1 January 2004.  We met when we were 5 years old;
        he was my best friend for the next 29 years.*****
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        More Destructive Than Organized http://staalplaat.com
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