by your argument- if the people who buy his records buy them to play them out, then they are making $$$ off of his records, so should rightfully pay more. Kinda the same when telephone rates are higher during the day because it's businesses making the calls.
the fact that the djs don't make as much money as jeff is utterly irrelevant. i don't think that there are too many privately owned stores that make as much money as the p hone company. having said all that, i don't think anyone on this list is unaware of the fact that im quite critical of mr. mills. my main problem ultimately stems from the fact that he seems to live in an egotistical bubble that manifest itself in everything from distorting a club system to overcharging for a record. But as i read this thread- I'm honestly starting to feel that my frustration shouldn't be directed at Jeff, but rather at the sheep who continue to worship at his feet, regardless of how poorly he treats them. What really messes with my head are the people who talk about Axis as an entity separate from Jeff himself, as if there's some shady management character taking their money without jeffs approval... wait, nobody's taking anything. people just give their money. We live in a capitalist society where everyone has the choice on what to buy and not to buy. Axis is not a pharmacutical company. Nor do they sell milk, tampons or other essentials. If anyone cries abot their vinyl 'addiction', prepare for the proverbial smackdown of a lifetime. =P you don't like it? don't buy it? you want it? then cough up the cash. you wanna call jeff out on being a hypocrit for making asinine statements on the back of his records (HE ALWAYS MAKES ASININ STATEMENTS ON THE BACK OF HIS RECORDS!), just ask yourself... Jeff Mills is playing at Lost and the price is $40. Your brother's friends who gave you a really good mix tape a few months back is playing at a local pup for $5 on the same night. Where are you gonna go???? Jeff...I forgive you, you playa!!!! Get paid my man!!!!! On Wed, 14 Jan 2004, Grammenos, Peter wrote: > > Yes but the people buying his records, for the most part, are other > musicians who want to play his music out, which in turn promotes him and > helps get him gigs. Gigs are where he should concentrate on making most of > his money, and that is where he probably does. Not many dj's can command > 6-10K for a few hours of playing.. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: atomly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 12:01 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: (313) axis > > > [Matt Chester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > > At the moment, if I press up 800 copies of a release it costs about > > ?1200 (less in N.America), and on a standard price to distributors > > (which = about ?5.50 in the stores) it takes about 500 sales to break > > even. So to double that price and claim it's to cover costs is > > ridiculous. Whilst the figures for a small independant label are > > tight as hell, I seriously doubt raising the prices will help - > > distributors and stores would take an accordingly higher cut, and > > sales would probably drop a bit as people find their addictions harder > > and harder to sustain. > > But the man isn't trying to just break even. You're forgetting about > packaging, press, etc. costs, overhead for the label (employees and > such) and the fact that Jeff Mills actually wants to make a living off of > this. If he sold them for cost, it wouldn't get him anywhere. > > That's one thing that always struck me as odd. I don't know how many times > I've heard people grumble about labels or promoters making money off of > music (not to say you were saying this or that Axis is charging any sort of > a fair price, this is just a tangent)-- I know I even did as a punk > teenager. After throwing shows and releasing records, I think it's absurd > to ask people to put that much of their money at risk and to devote that > much time and effort to something and only be able to barely break even, > otherwise they're a sellout. > > -- > :: atomly :: > > [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] : www.atomly.com ... > [ atomiq records : po box 805319 chicago il 60680 : 312.804.5389 ... [ > e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for atomly info and updates ... >
