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From: "Derek Plaslaiko." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>i guess this is getting closer to the root of what is ultimatly
annoying
>me about this whole thread. why is it that just because a
publication, in
>which you even said who cares what they think, gives a favorable
review to
>a record that you dont like, so therefore said artist is
undeserving of
>the hype?
my conclusion that he doesnt deserve the hype is just that, my
opinion. the list of artists i could point out that i think
rightfully deserve some hype is also my opinion. however, i wasnt
the person who designed that nice sticker thats on the matt dear
album that says "4 stars - rolling stone". obviously someone is
miscontruing this endorsement as being meaningful, and that really
only serves to further undermine the credibility of people who are
actually into this music who dont say the same thing about the
album. you say its good, you have rolling stone behind you. i say
its not, i have a bunch of people whose knowledge of this music
drowns RS's. to the uninitiated, your case will outweight mine
because they know what RS is. this perception can only be a bad
thing, because perception can ultimately become reality. some kid
who might otherwise be into someone like kenny larkin or kdj or
derrick may if he heard them might intead check out matt dear
instead and from that point on his perception of "detroit techno"
will be skewed.
>ever thought
>that maybe, just maybe, it some music that you, as well as the
people in
>the shop you work at, are just not ready for? and theres nothing
wrong
>with that either, mind you. theres tons of stuff that just goes
over
>peoples heads at first.
ill put the squad that shops here up against any squad of
selectors you can find. the range of tastes is pretty wide. thats
certainly not the problem.
>dont get me wrong, i fully share your argument that things in
mainstream
>media get alot of attention based on a hype machine, but i just
dont think
>matthews stuff fits in that argument. i, as well as MANY other
people who
>do in fact think outside the box when it comes to music in
general, think
>that matthews music is truly some next level sh*t.
im more than willing to be proved wrong. i was the first person to
listen to the LP when we got it in. i was underwhelmed, and every
single person whos musical opinion i respect locally has passed on
it since then.
>i guess when you look at it from that perspective, maybe it is a
little
>odd. but once again, i have to ask why do you care? its rolling
stone!
i care because RS hits more readers per month than any 313 list or
techno related mag is going to hit in any few years combined.
>you might be right, but i highly doubt that kenny sent a copy to
rolling
>stone for them to review in the first place. maybe rolling stone
should be
>going out and buying the moodymann record and reviewing it on
their own,
>but thats rolling stones fault.
here's exactly my point, boiled down to its essence: rolling stone
doesnt go out to find a moodymann record because theyre clueless
racists. it is these clueless racists who are beaming their
misinformed opinions into the minds of tons of kids who might
otherwise discover better techno if RS was more responsible. and
ghostly/spectral chooses to put a sticker on their record showing
how great the ignorant racist white media likes their record. this
is all bad news. derrick desiring to reach people with a better
rounded version of what detroit techno is through the festival is
a good thing. he's not ignorant of matt dear, didnt he play the
festival this past year? however he is not the end all be all of
detroit techno. and derrick may wants to take initiative to make
sure people can still get the real deal from somewhere, namely the
festival.
>if you want them to review it so bad, send
>em a copy, include your email address, and see what they say
about it
>afterwards.
i dont feel like its my responsibility to put a record into the
hands of someone who wouldnt know what to do with it. id prefer RS
just shut their mouths instead of trying to overhype something
that really isnt that exceptional.
>fair enough.... but wtf do YOU know? wtf do *I* know?? it sounds
more
>like your not liking his music even more, because some
publications took
>notice and like his stuff. thats a pretty crappy chip to have on
your
>shoulder.
i was underwhelmed by all his music i heard before this (first
spectral 12" being the exception, and i didnt like it enough to
buy it). now that he's getting props for average music it makes me
mad for sure, mainly because of the reasons that more deserving
people are being overlooked.
>i dont know. look at it this way, i guess.... wether you like his
music
>or not is up to you. but, i feel that anything coming from
detroit that is
>of a certain quality getting good media coverage, can only help
the
>artists in detroit who havent gotten the attention they deserve.
>cant something be said for supportting an artist?
if there wasnt any racism in the world, i would wholeheartedly
agree with you. unfortunately, the reality is that more deserving
black artists are getting no press because they dont fit into
major music label and media's perception that all black people
should either be thug emcees or "neo soul" crooners. hyping
another white artist isnt going to help things.
like i said many posts ago, the fact that he is white means
nothing at all to me. when recloose was getting some hype, i was
happy because i thought it was well deserved. this time around,
the music isnt as good which makes me question why matt dear is
getting the hype he is getting.
tom
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