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From: "Derek Plaslaiko." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>fair enough. but what about the MASSES of people who DO have good
things
>to say about the album? arent you undermining THEIR opinion at
the same
>time?
sure. its been pointed out many times before how many people have
bought backstreet boys albums. that doesnt make them good. i trust
my own opinion and the opinions of those who i respect.
>by the way, ironicly, i had a conversation a couple weeks ago
with derrick
>may and he said he likes the ghostly stuff. not sure his thoughts
specifly
>on matthews work, but i just found it ironic that the topic (which
>shouldve been changed many replies ago) has come full circle.
i said earlier that i like alot of the ghostly stuff, matt dear's
stuff i dont like.
>youre whole argument is reminding me of myself, working at
recordtime,
>when the first daft punk lp came out. i friggin HATED it with a
passion.
i dont know what to tell you about that man. that record was ill.
>sounds to me like your perception is already skewed. and you
dislike
>matthews stuff for political reasons.
how is that? ive said it at least 3 times already in this
discussion that i didnt really care for his stuff way before he
had any hype behind him.
>ok... BUT do you really think that everyone who gets the
magazine, reads
>EVERY review?
no, but even if a percentages does its still going to reach many
many potential fans of the music.
>i dont think its readers would read the review and then say
>"oh! so THIS is what that detroit techno stuff everyones been
talkin about
>for so long is all about!"
i think youre overestimating people.
>i think the decision from ghostly to put that
>on its sticker was mainly to point out "wow! a mainstream media
>publication took notice!" i think thats pretty cool acctually.
well good for you. i think its a punk move by a label that i like.
>besides, i didnt read any of these personally, so i have no
proof.... but
>im willing to bet $20 on each release that either spin or rolling
stone
>reviewed carl craig's "more songs about...." and/or "designer
music vol
>1." and last time i checked, my man carl is pretty black.
i read alot of this stuff becasue my little sister is subscribed
to it. i cant remember reading a record review of a black
electronic musician in any of them.
>ui didnt read the whole derrick may arguments stated in previous
posts, so
>i have no insight to the last part of your statement
he said that the festival would be a way to reach a new generation
of kids that he says is lacking.
>but as for the first
>part..... you can say alot about the writers at rolling stone,
but saying
>theyre racists having not had an actual event of out and out
racism thrown
>in your face from them, is just making your whole argument even
sillier.
do you want them to burn a cross on nelly's lawn? WTF. the only
racism is the KKK right? please. ignoring the artistic
accomplishments of black artists IS racism, duh.
>well, then i guess im saying prefer you shut yours, instead of
>discrediting something that alot of credible as well as
uncredible people
>say is groundbreaking and yes, innovative.
i think you who call it "groundbreaking" and "innovative" should
get your mouths pried off the crackpipe that is superglued between
your lips.
>if you dont get it, you dont get it. but basicly youre saying the
record
>is awful, and youre wrong. period.
NEVER SAID THAT. you guys like trying to put words in my mouth.
ive said "unimpressive", "nondescript", "uninteresting", and
probably a couple other words to describe music that i find to be
basically disposable but not repugnant.
>like i think i stated before, you can dislike something and
respect it at
>the same time.
i dont think ive disrespected it. all ive done is question why it
gets mainstream props while other things don't.
>right, but most of the people you have stated are being overlooked
>probably dont want the attention or press in the first place, or
they
>wouldve sent it to RS to get reviewed. and if it really was
exceptional
>(as well as underground, and presented to them in a professional
manner),
>they would probably mention it somehow. but i highly doubt its
racially
>motivated.
well then i dont know what to say to you. if you need it proved to
you that mainstream media doesnt give coverage to black artists
outside of the accepted genres of r+b and hiphop, im not going to
do it. ask your boy shake about it.
>damn... i was right. that chip on your shoulder must really slow
you down.
no it doesnt, it makes me stronger.
tmo
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