I wonder if DJs debated the addition of a pitch adjustment slider on
turntables as much as we now debated Final Scratch/Ableton?
MEK
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Subject: Re: (313) final
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FInal Scratch, for all its convenience, is yet to make a Dj set
considerable better. In fact, I still think its slowed down things like
track selection.
Ableton on the other hand has made non-DJs like Brenden Gillan into really
enjoyable DJs and really good DJs like Surgeon into friggin megamix
deities.
however- i've not seen surgeon actually play with ableton. is it just him
and a laptop? o ris he still playing records along with the ableton loops?
On Mon, 9 Feb 2004, Martin wrote:
> Surgeon mainly uses Ableton now to play live. Both appz offer advantages
> over 12's. The first being, you don't have to carry a box of 12's
> everywhere - pure pain in the ass as anyone who's walked more than ten
yards
> with a bag of 80+ will tell you. Popping on a plane with a laptop with
> back-up in your pocket has loads of advantages over losing your records
to a
> thiefing fcuker at the airport.
>
> Of the two, I would say Ableton offers more advantages than Final Scratch
> but requires more prep work before a set. I really can't see the point in
> buying the vinyl side of Final Scratch unless you plan to do some
scratching
> or love doing backspins.
>
> Surgeon has set the benchmark for what you can do, I've never heard him
play
> the same set twice and he can play for 4 hours plus without repeating
> himself and it's add loads of depth to his stuff, some of the stuff he
does
> is so sweet, clever and so on target.
>
> Also, with MP3's now becoming more available it's only a short matter of
> time before it's the main way to play out. Why you say, well when you
> consider that a distributor and shops still make more than the artist it
> won't be long before artist can sell direct to the punter and make enough
to
> live on without all the hassle and have direct contact and feedback. It's
> not as far away as you may think.
>
> Martin
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bleep43" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Thorin Teague" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[email protected]>
> Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 10:01 PM
> Subject: Re: (313) final scratch (fwd)
>
>
> > It's a major technological breakthrough for the art of DJing, so
therefore
> > it will have both positive and negative aspects. I'm seriously
considering
> > buying it so that I can then start playing all genres of music when
> playing
> > out.
> >
> > Surgeon's set at Split on Saturday in London confirmed to me what this
can
> > do - he has progressed beyond all other techno DJs in the genre right
now
> by
> > using it to cross-reference what he calls proper techno. It was
> thunderingly
> > futuristic, and sounded phenomenal. Derrick May sounded quite lame in
> > comparison.
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Thorin Teague" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 9:57 PM
> > Subject: (313) final scratch (fwd)
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Another good point, but being american and inebriated by consumer
> culture
> > as
> > > I am, I like to own things. Having a physical piece of wax
[sometimes]
> > with
> > > a cute little picture on it, or even just a white label, is just fun
to
> > me.
> > > So I still break out in a rash when I think about selling off my
vinyl.
> > > (Plus that I've sold so much cool vinyl that I've had to kick myself
> for.)
> > >
> > > Carissa Tintinalli writes:
> > >
> > > > I think there's been an interesting economic impact, especially for
> > those
> > > > djs who don't or barely make an income from playing out.
> > > >
> > > > Final Scratch has allowed a lot of djs I know to sell off large
chunks
> > of
> > > > their record collections so they could make money to buy more
records,
> > buy
> > > > gear, press tracks or even simply pay rent. Selling all your
records
> > years
> > > > ago was considered a sure sign of either retirment or insanity.
With
> > Final
> > > > Scratch, you can make bank and still keep playing.
> > > >
> > >
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